excellent dialogue.  I feel it in my heart.

On Apr 22, 12:22 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 22 Apr, 17:00, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > " ... things which seem to exist are but extensions of the one
> > thing ..."
>
> > The word extension has spatial meaning ... size, big, bigger, small,
> > smaller. Is that what you mean, Pat ?
>
> I use the word 'extension' to denote that, in reality, there is only
> continuity of the One.  Therefore, we are not 'parts' but must be
> extensions OF that One.  That One is extended in many ways: spatial,
> of course, but also extended in consciousness and extended in
> relational concept and relational form.
>
> > What exactly does it mean, when what we observe is form, forming,
> > formation ... being 1, being 2, being 3 ... without consciousness,
> > without self - consciousness, without formed consciousness ... ?
>
> I'm not sure what you're driving at with this.  What we observe is
> only an integrated 4-D part of a greater multi-dimensional whole.
> And, we can only integrate the 4-D slices because our consciousness
> is, at least, 2-dimensional.  It's a mathematical fact that
> integration of x dimensions requires x+1 dimensions.  Therefore, our
> consciousness MUST have access to another dimension in order to put
> the 4-D slices together such that we perceive a flow to events.
> Otherwise, we would only experience each individual slice and not
> understand how we got from one instant to the next.
>
> > Things and beings, you say, are eternal " because " they are retained
> > in Calabi Yau space. But they apparently are the truth ? And only One
> > is truth ? So, is One also residing in Calabi Yau space ?
>
> Yes, the One resides, if you will (though I would prefer the term
> 'exists'), in all dimensions that exist.  Otherwise, He is not
> omnipresent.  The Calabi-Yau dimensions are eternal because there is
> no temporal dimension in them, things that are 'there' are eternal, as
> there is no 'temporal' aspect to their existence.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 5:42 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 21 Apr, 22:33, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi RP!
> > > > I agree with you 100%, I see God the same way as you do. Your
> > > > discreption of God is so precise that I am going to save it on my
> > > > computer; and if you do not mind use it sometimes in my religious
> > > > writing when I cannot find the right words to describe God for the
> > > > learned people.
> > > > My way of describing God is more for uneducated people like myself,
> > > > and it goes like this:
> > > > God is life and life is God himself, we live in the eternal life force
> > > > of God
> > > > And when we are no more part of God life force we are dead.
> > > > My regards
> > > > Manfraco.
>
> > > How about two linked maxims:
>
> > >   1)  God is the one thing that truly exists.
> > >   2)  All the multitudes of things which seem to exist are but
> > > extensions of the one thing which truly exists.
>
> > > The continued existence of the space-time continuum removes the
> > > possibility of our 'disappearing' from reality.  Rather, when we die,
> > > we no longer continue a dynamic existence on the edge of the expansion
> > > of space-time and, rather, are relegated to a fixed area that those
> > > who are still alive would refer to as 'the past'.  We don't really
> > > leave space-time, our entire lives have always been (and always will
> > > be) a part of it.  The conscious aspect of our existence, though, may
> > > well go back to a freer form that is able to interact in other spatial
> > > dimensions that are not constrained by time, that is, as those spatial
> > > dimensions are timeless, existence in them is eternal.
>
> > > > On Apr 22, 2:23 am, RP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > God is pure consciousness, formless, unborn, eternal, indestructible
> > > > > and the source, the spirit and the end of all. We are conscious, have
> > > > > a form, are born, live and die. Our only solace is that we arise from
> > > > > him, are upheld by him and go back to him. He is the Truth and we are
> > > > > just his reflections and vanish when the vessel dies.
>
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