I see you have placed space time in a active role relationship with my here and now with your phrasing that suggests that it is space time that does things. This is where we've parted in the past Pat. I might consider that my actions become part and participle of space time record and that it is actually forming out of a continuum of actions not based on pre-valued/disposed actions which takes away the necessity of actually living it out. If I chop off my finger it is not due to the fact that is was necessary in adherence to space time in order to have the universe appear to be what it is tomorrow but actually it would be to alter the universe of tomorrow by my thought through action thereby placing the formation of the universe in my hands as a canvass onto which an artist paints. I doubt very much that the universe is dependent somehow on the existence of an under the bridge denizen scrounging for the next morsel of food. It doesn't seem likely that there would be any marked difference in universal principles based on that existence. Therefore as before I would conclude that the decisions made prior to that point of existence which led to that existence is independent of any space time influence. I see it the other way around.
On May 11, 6:24 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 11 May, 01:05, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ahh, yes Archy, the memories. I relive the games often. It is > > actually a very distinct aspect of human exchange very rarely looked > > at for what it really is; perhaps one of the most pleasurable rue > > forms of the libidinous nature with mutual high hopes for deep > > penetrations. I can't think of anything more enjoyable than engaging > > in seductive parlays with a voluptuous member of the opposite sex. > > Of course they say marriage is grand but divorce is fifty grand and up > > so getting past the pleasure without getting tied up in knots can > > become the challenge. But I have to say there were those that I > > foolishly let go and in retrospect and reminiscence I ponder the > > possibilities, ergo; my most famous words "If Only". > > No need for regrets, my friend. Space-time doesn't do anything > unnecessary, because ALL of it is already extant. Including those > regrets. So, whilst that may seem paradoxical (in that I say there's > no need for regrets, yet also explain that your regrets WERE > necessary), what I mean is that there is no need for FUTURE regrets, > now that you know that all events in the past HAD to be the way they > were in order to get the universe to where it is now. That is, > there's little sense in regretting what was necessary. > > > On May 10, 6:29 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Slip has reminded me of the word 'foreploy' and the world of former > > > rusing. > > > > On 10 May, 14:07, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 7 May, 18:39, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > No, I am not two-faced and my tongue is not split. Please don't burn > > > > > me. > > > > > Oh no, I wasn't trying to imply that you were two-faced. Rather, I > > > > was trying to perform a 'vorterspiele' on your "Also Sprach..." and > > > > relating you to Zarathustra, who was the prophet of a dualistic > > > > faith. It was only a pun, NEVER meant as any kind of punishment. > > > > Apologies, if I offended you. Really!! > > > > > > On 7 Mai, 14:14, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 7 May, 11:09, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you, my best Lee, you've made my day! > > > > > > > > I know the London of the 80's a little bit, a time when I was > > > > > > > stopped > > > > > > > in the street by a police officer for walking with a black man - I > > > > > > > should go find find some better company. Policemen in Berlin would > > > > > > > have never dared to act like that, the black man could have been > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > American soldier. > > > > > > > > Anyway, "God is all so Bastard" is gorgeous! You see, I have a bad > > > > > > > habit of starting my explanations in German with "also", which > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > "thus" in this case. You know, the Thus-spoke-Gabby-style, always > > > > > > > wonderfully demonstrated by our friend orny. But I've been > > > > > > > working on > > > > > > > it, I hope you've noticed! > > > > > > > Is this a way of affirming/asserting yourself as a reincarnation of > > > > > > Zarathustra? ;-) How about "Die Verstecktsachenzweisprecherin" as > > > > > > a > > > > > > title of respect? > > > > > > > For those who don't speak German to any length, I'd translate that > > > > > > as > > > > > > "The woman who secretly speaks two things" (in reference to > > > > > > Zarathustra (Zoroaster), the prophet of a dualistic faith, > > > > > > Zoroastrianism) although, literally, I've just shoved the words for > > > > > > 'hidden', 'things', 'two' and 'speaker' together with a feminine > > > > > > ending and preceded by a feminine definite article. But German > > > > > > excels > > > > > > at inventing new words by adding other words together; truly, it's > > > > > > one > > > > > > of its greatest powers, in my opinion, and one that English > > > > > > inherited, > > > > > > albeit in a, funnily enough, bastardised way. ;-) > > > > > > > > On 7 Mai, 10:30, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hahah! I disagree my dearest Gabs, God is all so Bastard, yep > > > > > > > > we can > > > > > > > > certianly call God that, I don't really know why a person of > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > would want to but, ahh if they wish to, well go right ahead. > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 22:21, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Bastards" is definitely not one of the 99 names of Allah, > > > > > > > > > Pat. > > > > > > > > > > On 6 Mai, 14:02, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 12:49, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh Gabbs, I'm afraid I can't answer that. Shhh it's my > > > > > > > > > > > secret to > > > > > > > > > > > keep. I will say though not Tory, ohhh no never that. > > > > > > > > > > > It's also a pretty safe bet you didn't vote BNP. > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'd > > > > > > > > > > reckon you voted Lib Dem. hoping for a hung parliament and > > > > > > > > > > the chance > > > > > > > > > > that it might just bring, God help us, coalition between > > > > > > > > > > factions > > > > > > > > > > forcing the bastards to work together rather than against > > > > > > > > > > one another. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 11:47, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, I'm in for the guessing game, although I'm terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be voting Labour for traditional reasons, > > > > > > > > > > > > but for the > > > > > > > > > > > > betterment of your children Tory would be more > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable, yet the old > > > > > > > > > > > > freedom fighter in you calls for the Libs. Help me, > > > > > > > > > > > > which duty has > > > > > > > > > > > > won? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 Mai, 10:31, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless of course the word of the day is 'Sarcasam'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > reliably informed though that Americans do not get > > > > > > > > > > > > > it! More racism, > > > > > > > > > > > > > just to jolly up a drab Thursday morning. Ohh > > > > > > > > > > > > > by-the-by, I'm happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > report that my civic duty has been done again for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > next 4 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 08:23, gabbydott <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who started this educational thread, OM? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could note for your lesson learned that your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pupils are too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignorant to get your fine humor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 8:27 am, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Race baiting again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 5, 9:43 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this your insidious attempt at insulting a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very important Mexican > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebration? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think your post is nothing more than racist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commentary based on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignorance of the actual celebration of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > independence, "Cinco De Mayo" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which anyone with a smidgen of a brain knows is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the recognition of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mexican independence from France achieved at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the battle of Puebla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which took place in 1862 during the month of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May and on the 5th day of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the month. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You purport yourself as the enlightened one and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then proffer garbage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such as this. How low are you willing to go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senior Ornamentalmind? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a sick puppy would post such racism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have something against Mexicans senior? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 5, 11:03 am, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most people don’t know that back in 1912, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hellmann’s mayonnaise was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manufactured in England. In fact the Titanic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was carrying 12,000 jars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the condiment scheduled for delivery in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vera Cruz, Mexico, which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was to be the net port of call for the great > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ship after its stop in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New York. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This would have been the largest single > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shipment of mayonnaise ever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered to Mexico. But, as we know, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great ship did not make it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sank, the cargo was forever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The people of Mexico, who were crazy about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mayonnaise, and were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eagerly awaiting its delivery were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disconsolate at the loss. Their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anguish was so great, that they declared a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > National Day of Mourning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which they still observe to this day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The National Day of Mourning occurs each year > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on May 5th and is known, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course, as Sinko de Mayo.- Hide quoted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
