But Pat, it is already set within the Space-Time Parameters that you
shouldn't be able to "recover".

On May 13, 9:44 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 13 May, 14:12, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ja, überstanden. Gute Besserung auch dir.
>
> See, you're more techie than I am, as I don't know how to get the
> umlaut to show up and resort to covering it with the extra 'e'.
> Hopefully, I'll recover from THAT, as well.  ;-)
>
> > On 13 Mai, 14:23, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 13 May, 10:29, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Speak for yourself/ your own perception, please, Pat! A sheer
> > > > necessity if we want to get on with our "Minds Eye"/ mutual
> > > > overstanding - project! Thank you.
>
> > > LOL!!  Thing is, we all speak for the One that is.  Uebersteht?
>
> > > > On 12 Mai, 14:02, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 12 May, 11:23, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I see you have placed space time in a active role relationship with 
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > here and now with your phrasing that suggests that it is space time
> > > > > > that does things.  This is where we've parted in the past Pat.  I
> > > > > > might consider that my actions become part and participle of space
> > > > > > time record and that it is actually forming out of a continuum of
> > > > > > actions not based on pre-valued/disposed actions which takes away 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > necessity of actually living it out. If I chop off my finger it is 
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > due to the fact that is was necessary in adherence to space time in
> > > > > > order to have the universe appear to be what it is tomorrow but
> > > > > > actually it would be to alter the universe of tomorrow by my thought
> > > > > > through action thereby placing the formation of the universe in my
> > > > > > hands as a canvass onto which an artist paints.  I doubt very much
> > > > > > that the universe is dependent somehow on the existence of an under
> > > > > > the bridge denizen scrounging for the next morsel of food.  It 
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > seem likely that there would be any marked difference in universal
> > > > > > principles based on that existence.  Therefore as before I would
> > > > > > conclude that the decisions made prior to that point of existence
> > > > > > which led to that existence is independent of any space time
> > > > > > influence.  I see it the other way around.
>
> > > > > Well, I'll stick with Einstein on this one.  The future is already
> > > > > extant as evidenced through time dilation.  If you can disprove time
> > > > > dilation, then you can have it your way.  Just because you can't see
> > > > > around the temporal corner doesn't mean that there's nothing around
> > > > > that corner; rather, it only implies that you can't see around that
> > > > > corner.
>
> > > > > > On May 11, 6:24 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 11 May, 01:05, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Ahh, yes Archy, the memories.  I relive the games often.  It is
> > > > > > > > actually a very distinct aspect of human exchange very rarely 
> > > > > > > > looked
> > > > > > > > at for what it really is; perhaps one of the most pleasurable 
> > > > > > > > rue
> > > > > > > > forms of the libidinous nature with mutual high hopes for deep
> > > > > > > > penetrations.  I can't think of anything more enjoyable than 
> > > > > > > > engaging
> > > > > > > > in seductive parlays with a voluptuous member of the opposite 
> > > > > > > > sex.
> > > > > > > > Of course they say marriage is grand but divorce is fifty grand 
> > > > > > > > and up
> > > > > > > > so getting past the pleasure without getting tied up in knots 
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > become the challenge.  But I have to say there were those that I
> > > > > > > > foolishly let go and in retrospect and reminiscence I ponder the
> > > > > > > > possibilities, ergo; my  most famous words "If Only".
>
> > > > > > > No need for regrets, my friend.  Space-time doesn't do anything
> > > > > > > unnecessary, because ALL of it is already extant.  Including those
> > > > > > > regrets.  So, whilst that may seem paradoxical (in that I say 
> > > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > no need for regrets, yet also explain that your regrets WERE
> > > > > > > necessary), what I mean is that there is no need for FUTURE 
> > > > > > > regrets,
> > > > > > > now that you know that all events in the past HAD to be the way 
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > were in order to get the universe to where it is now.  That is,
> > > > > > > there's little sense in regretting what was necessary.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 10, 6:29 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Slip has reminded me of the word 'foreploy' and the world of 
> > > > > > > > > former
> > > > > > > > > rusing.
>
> > > > > > > > > On 10 May, 14:07, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 7 May, 18:39, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > No, I am not two-faced and my tongue is not split. Please 
> > > > > > > > > > > don't burn
> > > > > > > > > > > me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Oh no, I wasn't trying to imply that you were two-faced.  
> > > > > > > > > > Rather, I
> > > > > > > > > > was trying to perform a 'vorterspiele' on your "Also 
> > > > > > > > > > Sprach..."  and
> > > > > > > > > > relating you to Zarathustra, who was the prophet of a 
> > > > > > > > > > dualistic
> > > > > > > > > > faith.  It was only a pun, NEVER meant as any kind of 
> > > > > > > > > > punishment.
> > > > > > > > > > Apologies, if I offended you.  Really!!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mai, 14:14, Pat <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 May, 11:09, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, my best Lee, you've made my day!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the London of the 80's a little bit, a time 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > when I was stopped
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in the street by a police officer for walking with a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > black man - I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > should go find find some better company. Policemen in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Berlin would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have never dared to act like that, the black man 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > could have been an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > American soldier.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, "God is all so Bastard" is gorgeous! You see, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > habit of starting my explanations in German with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "also", which means
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "thus" in this case. You know, the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus-spoke-Gabby-style, always
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wonderfully demonstrated by our friend orny. But I've 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > been working on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it, I hope you've noticed!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Is this a way of affirming/asserting yourself as a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > reincarnation of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Zarathustra?  ;-)  How about "Die 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Verstecktsachenzweisprecherin" as a
> > > > > > > > > > > > title of respect?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > For those who don't speak German to any length, I'd 
> > > > > > > > > > > > translate that as
> > > > > > > > > > > > "The woman who secretly speaks two things" (in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > reference to
> > > > > > > > > > > > Zarathustra (Zoroaster), the prophet of a dualistic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > faith,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Zoroastrianism) although, literally, I've just shoved 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the words for
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'hidden', 'things', 'two' and 'speaker' together with a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > feminine
> > > > > > > > > > > > ending and preceded by a feminine definite article.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > But German excels
> > > > > > > > > > > > at inventing new words by adding other words together; 
> > > > > > > > > > > > truly, it's one
> > > > > > > > > > > > of its greatest powers, in my opinion, and one that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > English inherited,
> > > > > > > > > > > > albeit in a, funnily enough, bastardised way.  ;-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mai, 10:30, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hahah!  I disagree my dearest Gabs, God is all so 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bastard, yep we can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > certianly call God that, I don't really know why a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > person of faith
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would want to but, ahh if they wish to, well go 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > right ahead.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 22:21, gabbydott <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bastards" is definitely not one of the 99 names 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Allah, Pat.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 Mai, 14:02, Pat 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 12:49, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh Gabbs, I'm afraid I can't answer that.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shhh it's my secret to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep.  I will say though not Tory, ohhh no 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never that.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's also a pretty safe bet you didn't vote 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BNP.  Personally, I'd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reckon you voted Lib Dem. hoping for a hung 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parliament and the chance
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that it might just bring, God help us, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > coalition between factions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forcing the bastards to work together rather 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than against one another.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 11:47, gabbydott 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, I'm in for the guessing game, although 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm terrible at it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be voting Labour for traditional 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasons, but for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > betterment of your children Tory would be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more reasonable, yet the old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freedom fighter in you calls for the Libs. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help me, which duty has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > won?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 Mai, 10:31, Lee <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless of course the word of the day is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Sarcasam'.  I have been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reliably informed though that Americans 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do not get it!  More racism,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just to jolly up a drab Thursday morning. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Ohh by-the-by, I'm happy to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > report that my civic duty has been done 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again for the next 4 years.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 May, 08:23, gabbydott 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who started this educational thread, OM?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could note for your lesson learned
>
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