It is remarkable sometimes how our varying aptitudes can lead to building character, and the importance of diversity in the ingenuity and creativity of our species. This is part of a larger, hope building wisdom and saving grace of adversity I think.

As there is always a higher navigation reaching into temporal release beyond being moved by our visions, where movement and stillness both reside perhaps angst may apply broadly. Then again, this privileged separation by some would be called ignorance rather than enlightenment. So it seems there is again a creative and conservative continuum of varying correspondent scopes and depths. Whether the emotions invoked by my visions embody enthusiasm, anger, or equanimity is becoming more of a choice and I think that is a good indication of will, and so, hope. I like your picture of birth and safety, and it can be even simpler than that: it's fuckin' cold out here (for many). But then again there is such potential, warmth, and beauty. :) Choice, so simple yet profound.

On 5/20/2010 1:19 AM, ornamentalmind wrote:
Yes Ash, in most cases nonconformity attracts unwanted attention at
best. Further, yes it is true that there are social norms that define
what sort of behavior allows attacks. Of course, such norms are not
universal and vary over time. And, we all have to learn how to adapt
to what we perceive as what is “out there”. This is never easy… for
anyone.

While angst is common among the young at least, I can empathize with
the self destructive activities that all too often are a result of
some sort of moral guilt or remorse. This type of self flagellation,
while seeming quite ‘natural’ and proper at the time, only results in
a cathected ego as you have found out. Now, I could be way off base,
however, for most, the first few days out of the womb are formative
and determine whether one sees the ‘world’ as a friendly and safe
place to be or not. Rather than delve into what can be seen as pseudo
psych, I’ll leave it at that.

For all of us, defense mechanisms of one sort or another are erected
in an attempt to protect ‘self’… they are used in lieu of wisdom which
can only come later, when one has lived and experienced more. Of
course, some never take the path back within…so on that count, I wish
you well on your journey towards self realization.


On May 19, 9:46 pm, Ash<[email protected]>  wrote:
Aside from the social aspects I began strongly inclined to inner peace.
Acting differently can make one a target, and silent protest is
apparently an unforgivable weakness. Unfortunately circumstances did not
promote my strengths, instead through a tormented childhood I learned to
turn my strength and depth inward against myself, creating a boundless
anguish. So I think this led to my mistrust of emotion, and myself, that
I always keep hidden.

I know where I am, but no idea _what_ I am. From that the solution would
be simple, even if difficult to dismantle/unbury. There is too much to
say but I'm trying to be honest. I am at a crossroads now, with values
in conflict with deeply rooted lessons. Thinking things out helps, but
it always comes back to that, like in Hotel California by the Eagles
(ugh, sick joke).

It's a short, personal story representing many of those conflicts.

On 5/19/2010 6:16 PM, ornamentalmind wrote:



"... Having this awareness or ability can lead to conflict though." -
Ash
How so Ash?
On May 19, 3:10 pm, Ash<[email protected]>    wrote:
'blabber mouthed mind', Hah I like this guy. This might be the source of
that flabbergasted feeling I get when listening to some people. Having
this awareness or ability can lead to conflict though.
On 5/19/2010 5:16 PM, ornamentalmind wrote:
As far as I can tell Neil...what we 'do' is the main point and one
that becomes obvious when and IF one takes the path. Yes, I know...pie
in the sky stuff, right? Not as far as I can tell.
On May 19, 8:50 am, archytas<[email protected]>      wrote:
He's good as ever Orn.  I generally want more than offered in his
typical mode though (no doubt obssesively).  That we are all sick is a
little obvious and only of limited help, though one has to appreciate
the wit with which this was brought up. I wonder what horrors we might
raise in cinsidering the empty state?  The question is a little like
asking 'what is power?' rather than seeking new ways to produce more
of it.  A good one, yet what do we develop from any insight it brings?
On 19 May, 01:06, ornamentalmind<[email protected]>      wrote:
...or the noise in my head and the Wallace Syndrome...
Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogH3KAge6zw
Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHAg-O_6m-Y
What do you think?

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