Rather than such tame stuff as a Bill of Rights Neil, I refer back to the Declaration of Independence. The 3 manor documents in early US history are all quite different in nature and tenor.
On May 29, 10:06 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > It is (barely) possible to think the world began in 4004 BC complete > with fossil record and memories, or regard the cosmos as a jest, > ourselves little more than a puppet show for a bored god grown idle. > Goethe once said anyone who could not call upon 3000 years was a > waster, Rembrandt that an upright soul respects honour before wealth, > Aristotle that tragedy is an imitation of action and Sir William > Batten (Surveyor of the Navy) that the Devil shits Dutchmen. I am not > struck by much other than we seem here (possibly) for something and I > want it that way and to know or have played some part in the creation > of what does. I suspect much of history is merely a metaphorical > prick to the present, as life was seeming certainly pricked to > organisation. Maybe science is reaching that point at which its > exposure of the miserable fables of religion is more than debunking > experienced as pain or in defamed face by its authorities? I rather > hope so, but this is a world in which even the Americans have not > noticed that their constitution is merely on political rights that end > with us bowling alone in chronic lack of socio-economic freedom. What > spark for a second Bill of Rights Bill? > > On 27 May, 22:39, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > To those who have responded…thanks for the feedback! Often, especially > > when there is no reply at all, I wonder if I’m merely sending verbiage > > off into a black hole!! ;-) > > > Anyway, even though countless similar articles are printed all the > > time, this one seemed to point toward something a little more > > ‘special’ in the sense of possibly having a little more substance than > > the others. > > > And, as Neil said, I continue to look into other realms too… > > > On May 27, 7:49 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The fact that we are here is enough to warrant a look into the matter > > > though. I agree it is easier to brush the matter aside and just live > > > life to the fullest! I find much pleasure in looking into these > > > mysteries though and can appreciate different views on the matter. As > > > for the scientific evidence, well it offers an explaination as to > > > forms but not all the contents. Good article! Thanks orn. > > > > On May 27, 9:02 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We know so little of our own conception so I suppose it's easier to > > > > brush that matter aside. > > > > > On May 27, 7:18 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Something of an old chestnut this one, despite NS's focus on it last > > > > > week. I note that meteorites are now the Earth's preferred postal > > > > > service. How long before our wonderful entrepreneurs offer up 'ATP > > > > > Supplements - to freshen up your tired life-batteries'? Or maybe the > > > > > cigarette manufacturers will be able to recommend we take it up again, > > > > > as long as we use matches to light up (for the 'healthy' phosphorous > > > > > content)? > > > > > > I agree on the possible clues on what "we" are Bill (or 'where > > > > > from'). Intelligent design claims have long been in the hands of > > > > > idiots since Darwin and far too easily connected with specific gods. > > > > > I have never been able to get past wondering why super-omnipotence > > > > > can't see its way to let us know what we are, what we should do and > > > > > such. If science is more or less right, then "we" at least come long > > > > > after "something else", and we could do with more practice in hen and > > > > > egg questions. Even as a chemist I could only wonder at what pre- > > > > > caused or organised what went on in my experiments that was clearly > > > > > beyond any influence I could have. Sometimes even the type of glass > > > > > was a key, but I mean something beyond even surface effects or > > > > > catalysis. I would actually like a version or two of modern scripture > > > > > not requiring me to believe in blue and white striped rabbits. You > > > > > have introduced me to some. My thanks are duly given. > > > > > > On 26 May, 17:42, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > One more probable step in piecing together what ‘we’ are from the > > > > > > scientific community. > > > > > > > orn. > > > > > > > 'Nature's Batteries' May Have Helped Power Early Lifeforms > > > > > > > ScienceDaily (May 25, 2010) — Researchers at the University of Leeds > > > > > > have uncovered new clues to the origins of life on Earth. > > > > > > > The team found that a compound known as pyrophosphite may have been > > > > > > an > > > > > > important energy source for primitive lifeforms. > > > > > > > There are several conflicting theories of how life on Earth emerged > > > > > > from inanimate matter billions of years ago -- a process known as > > > > > > abiogenesis. > > > > > > > "It's a chicken and egg question," said Dr Terry Kee of the > > > > > > University > > > > > > of Leeds, who led the research. "Scientists are in disagreement over > > > > > > what came first -- replication, or metabolism. But there is a third > > > > > > part to the equation -- and that is energy." > > > > > > > All living things require a continual supply of energy in order to > > > > > > function. This energy is carried around our bodies within certain > > > > > > molecules, one of the best known being ATP (adenosine triphosphate), > > > > > > which converts heat from the sun into a useable form for animals and > > > > > > plants. > > > > > > > At any one time, the human body contains just 250g of ATP -- this > > > > > > provides roughly the same amount of energy as a single AA battery. > > > > > > This ATP store is being constantly used and regenerated in cells > > > > > > via a > > > > > > process known as respiration, which is driven by natural catalysts > > > > > > called enzymes. > > > > > > > "You need enzymes to make ATP and you need ATP to make enzymes," > > > > > > explained Dr Kee. "The question is: where did energy come from > > > > > > before > > > > > > either of these two things existed? We think that the answer may lie > > > > > > in simple molecules such as pyrophosphite which is chemically very > > > > > > similar to ATP, but has the potential to transfer energy without > > > > > > enzymes." > > > > > > > The key to the battery-like properties of both ATP and pyrophosphite > > > > > > is an element called phosphorus, which is essential for all living > > > > > > things. Not only is phosphorus the active component of ATP, it also > > > > > > forms the backbone of DNA and is important in the structure of cell > > > > > > walls. > > > > > > > But despite its importance to life, it is not fully understood how > > > > > > phosphorus first appeared in our atmosphere. One theory is that it > > > > > > was > > > > > > contained within the many meteorites that collided with the Earth > > > > > > billions of years ago. > > > > > > > "Phosphorus is present within several meteoritic minerals and it is > > > > > > possible that this reacted to form pyrophosphite under the acidic, > > > > > > volcanic conditions of early Earth," added Dr Kee. > > > > > > > The findings, published in the journal Chemical Communications, are > > > > > > the first to suggest that pyrophosphite may have been relevant in > > > > > > the > > > > > > shift from basic chemistry to complex biology when life on earth > > > > > > began. Since completing this research, Dr Kee and his team have > > > > > > found > > > > > > even further evidence for the importance of this molecule and now > > > > > > hope > > > > > > to team up with collaborators from NASA to investigate its role in > > > > > > abiogenesis. > > > > > > > The study was funded by the STFC and the Engineering and Physical > > > > > > Sciences Research Council (EPSRC). > > > > > > >http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100525094906.htm-Hidequo...- > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -
