On 4 June, 15:11, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes! That is exactly what I was trying to imply! I did not or could > not have the words to express it in such a manner though. I wonder if > you are familiar with The Library of Halexandria? I think it to be a > wonderful myriad and wealth of knowledge! Here's the > link;http://www.halexandria.org/ >
I wasn't aware of it, but I am now. I just wish I had access to the Internet at home. One of these days, I'll have enough money, again, to hook up, but I don't see it coming for a while, yet. Glad I was able to express your thought. I suspect it's the liguist/sufi in me. Here's a story that tells what I mean by linguist/sufi: Four men- A Persian, a Turk, an Arab, and a Greek- were standing in a village street. They were traveling companions, making for some distant place; but at this moment they were arguing over the spending of a single piece of money which was all that they had among them. "I want ANGUR," said the Persian. "I want UZUM," said the Turk. "I want INAB," said the Arab. "No!" said the Greek, "we should buy STAFIL." Another traveler passing, a linguist, said, "Give the coin to me. I undertake to satisfy the desires of all of you." At first they would not trust him. Ultimately they let him have the coin. He went to the shop of a fruit seller and bought four small bunches of grapes. "This is my ANGUR," said the Persian. "But this is what i call UZUM," said the Turk. "You have brought me INAB," said the Arab. "No!" said the Greek, "this in my language is STAFIL." The grapes were shared out among them, and each realized that the disharmony had been due to his faulty understanding of the language of others. "The travelers" said the Agha, "are the ordinary people of the world. The linguist is the Sufi. People know that they want something, because there is an inner need existing in them. They may give it different names, but it is the same thing. Those call it religion have different names for it, and even different ideas as to what it might be. Those who call it ambition try to find its scope in different ways. But it is only when a linguist appears, someone who knows what they really mean, that they can stop the struggling and get on with the eating of the Grapes". > On Jun 4, 8:57 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 4 June, 13:21, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "Far too many variable like > > > that make the 'truth' impossible to discover, as the details of > > > reality are just too complicated." > > > > I think that the 'truth' is easy to discover when we look into > > > ourselves provided we are willing to accept it. The convaluted truth > > > around us is only a reflection of ourselves in denial of our inner > > > truth. > > > I.e., the holographic universe. That is, all parts of the universe > > reflect all the other parts. If that is true, then there would be > > something behind astrology, as the planets would be reflecting the > > state of the univere in a subtle way. Not that they DICTATE events, > > but that they reflect them. So, a careful study of events and > > planetary positions could yield enough data to suggest, by planetary > > positions, what events might be likely. But only after a LOT of study > > of both events and astronomical observations. Which is why I'm still > > angry about what Marc Antony and Caliph Umar did to the Great Library > > of Alexandria (albeit 650-odd years apart!), which, supposedly, > > contained some 10,000 years worth of Chaldean astronomical/ > > astrological data. One (Antony) out of pride and the other (Umar) out > > of pure lack of respect. > > > > On Jun 4, 7:58 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 3 June, 18:07, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I wonder if it's possible to test your theory on dark matter using a > > > > > tuned laser and mirrors? Interesting thoughts in any case! I'm going > > > > > to mull this one over a bit. > > > > > It seems like a reasonable test, as with the lasers, you'd know the > > > > exact frequency of the photons emitted across your line of sight and > > > > could, thus, calculate the 'expected' dark matter. But, of course, in > > > > space, we have no idea of the number of stars emitting photons of > > > > varying frequencies (from radio waves to gamma rays) in 360 degrees X > > > > by 360 degrees Y by 360 degrees Z axes, so there'd be little hope of > > > > calculating a reasonable 'expected' value. Far too many variable like > > > > that make the 'truth' impossible to discover, as the details of > > > > reality are just too complicated. > > > > > > On Jun 2, 5:51 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 1 June, 11:03, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > really! awesome.. i totally had no idea of that..luno solar > > > > > > > actitvity > > > > > > > influencing us so..'may' is a pretty strong word in itself > > > > > > > though.. > > > > > > > Well, it's difficult to prove. Although there's no doubt that > > > > > > gravity > > > > > > has far-reaching effects. Technically, it reaches across the > > > > > > universe > > > > > > and every particle of matter that HAS mass has some gravitational > > > > > > effects on every other particle. Also note that, while photons have > > > > > > no 'rest mass', one NEVER sees a photon at rest. Rather, they move > > > > > > at > > > > > > near the speed of light (I say 'near' in order to account for some > > > > > > slowing that occurs as they move through whatever medium they are > > > > > > moving through, whether that be our atmosphere or the lens of a > > > > > > telescope and ultimately the cornea and lens of our eye). So, > > > > > > while I > > > > > > expect you are familiar with E=MC^2 as the relationship between > > > > > > energy > > > > > > and mass, there is another equation that must also come into play > > > > > > with > > > > > > respect to photons and that is E=Fh where E is energy, F is the > > > > > > frequency of the photon and 'h' is the Planck Constant. So, by > > > > > > using > > > > > > these two equations together, one can see that if you take the > > > > > > frequency of a photon, F, and multiply it by the Planck Constant, > > > > > > you > > > > > > yield the 'energy' of that photon. Divide that by C^2, the speed of > > > > > > light in a vacuum, and you have calculated the 'mass' of the photon. > > > > > > It's my belief that the supposed 'dark matter' is nothing more than > > > > > > the gravitational trails of the countless photons moving across > > > > > > space- > > > > > > time. The more space-time that one looks through, the more trails > > > > > > of > > > > > > photon have crossed that path and, thus, the more 'dark matter' you > > > > > > see. Note, you only see the photons that are heading towards your > > > > > > eyes, those that cross across that path are NOT seen and it is THESE > > > > > > that I believe form the basis of the elusive dark matter that > > > > > > accounts > > > > > > for a huge amount of energy that simply passes across our line of > > > > > > sight. Because we don't 'see' these photons (because they aren't > > > > > > headed in our direction), they only show up by virtue of their > > > > > > gravitational effects, thus they 'appear' as dark matter. > > > > > > > > On 6/1/10, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 30 May, 08:45, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if astrology is for real..i mean is there a > > > > > > > > > fragment > > > > > > > > > of truth in it.. even though it seems completely > > > > > > > > > irrational...does the > > > > > > > > > fact that it has been there for ages give it legitimacy..or > > > > > > > > > is it pure > > > > > > > > > fluff feeding off people uncertainties about life... > > > > > > > > > It could well be an aspect of the general holography of the > > > > > > > > universe. > > > > > > > > That is, there are aspects ofthe universe which reflect the > > > > > > > > entirety, > > > > > > > > if one is open to looking for these reflections and know how to > > > > > > > > interpret them. One thing IS for sure, gravity's effect is > > > > > > > > real and > > > > > > > > carries across space-time from one end to the other. We know > > > > > > > > that the > > > > > > > > luno-solar gravity accounts for the tides and the word 'lunacy' > > > > > > > > implies that those tidal effects may (strictly MAY!!) also > > > > > > > > affect our > > > > > > > > cerebro-spinal fluid in a subtle way.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
