halexandria is weird On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 4 June, 15:11, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes! That is exactly what I was trying to imply! I did not or could > > not have the words to express it in such a manner though. I wonder if > > you are familiar with The Library of Halexandria? I think it to be a > > wonderful myriad and wealth of knowledge! Here's the link; > http://www.halexandria.org/ > > > > I wasn't aware of it, but I am now. I just wish I had access to the > Internet at home. One of these days, I'll have enough money, again, > to hook up, but I don't see it coming for a while, yet. Glad I was > able to express your thought. I suspect it's the liguist/sufi in me. > > Here's a story that tells what I mean by linguist/sufi: > > Four men- A Persian, a Turk, an Arab, and a Greek- were standing in a > village street. They were traveling companions, making for some > distant place; but at this moment they were arguing over the spending > of a single piece of money which was all that they had among them. > > "I want ANGUR," said the Persian. > "I want UZUM," said the Turk. > "I want INAB," said the Arab. > "No!" said the Greek, "we should buy STAFIL." > > Another traveler passing, a linguist, said, "Give the coin to me. I > undertake to satisfy the desires of all of you." > > At first they would not trust him. Ultimately they let him have the > coin. He went to the shop of a fruit seller and bought four small > bunches of grapes. > > "This is my ANGUR," said the Persian. > "But this is what i call UZUM," said the Turk. > "You have brought me INAB," said the Arab. > "No!" said the Greek, "this in my language is STAFIL." > > The grapes were shared out among them, and each realized that the > disharmony had been due to his faulty understanding of the language of > others. > > "The travelers" said the Agha, "are the ordinary people of the world. > The linguist is the Sufi. People know that they want something, > because there is an inner need existing in them. They may give it > different names, but it is the same thing. Those call it religion have > different names for it, and even different ideas as to what it might > be. Those who call it ambition try to find its scope in different > ways. But it is only when a linguist appears, someone who knows what > they really mean, that they can stop the struggling and get on with > the eating of the Grapes". > > > > On Jun 4, 8:57 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 4 June, 13:21, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > "Far too many variable like > > > > that make the 'truth' impossible to discover, as the details of > > > > reality are just too complicated." > > > > > > I think that the 'truth' is easy to discover when we look into > > > > ourselves provided we are willing to accept it. The convaluted truth > > > > around us is only a reflection of ourselves in denial of our inner > > > > truth. > > > > > I.e., the holographic universe. That is, all parts of the universe > > > reflect all the other parts. If that is true, then there would be > > > something behind astrology, as the planets would be reflecting the > > > state of the univere in a subtle way. Not that they DICTATE events, > > > but that they reflect them. So, a careful study of events and > > > planetary positions could yield enough data to suggest, by planetary > > > positions, what events might be likely. But only after a LOT of study > > > of both events and astronomical observations. Which is why I'm still > > > angry about what Marc Antony and Caliph Umar did to the Great Library > > > of Alexandria (albeit 650-odd years apart!), which, supposedly, > > > contained some 10,000 years worth of Chaldean astronomical/ > > > astrological data. One (Antony) out of pride and the other (Umar) out > > > of pure lack of respect. > > > > > > On Jun 4, 7:58 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 3 June, 18:07, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I wonder if it's possible to test your theory on dark matter > using a > > > > > > tuned laser and mirrors? Interesting thoughts in any case! I'm > going > > > > > > to mull this one over a bit. > > > > > > > It seems like a reasonable test, as with the lasers, you'd know the > > > > > exact frequency of the photons emitted across your line of sight > and > > > > > could, thus, calculate the 'expected' dark matter. But, of course, > in > > > > > space, we have no idea of the number of stars emitting photons of > > > > > varying frequencies (from radio waves to gamma rays) in 360 degrees > X > > > > > by 360 degrees Y by 360 degrees Z axes, so there'd be little hope > of > > > > > calculating a reasonable 'expected' value. Far too many variable > like > > > > > that make the 'truth' impossible to discover, as the details of > > > > > reality are just too complicated. > > > > > > > > On Jun 2, 5:51 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 1 June, 11:03, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > really! awesome.. i totally had no idea of that..luno solar > actitvity > > > > > > > > influencing us so..'may' is a pretty strong word in itself > though.. > > > > > > > > > Well, it's difficult to prove. Although there's no doubt that > gravity > > > > > > > has far-reaching effects. Technically, it reaches across the > universe > > > > > > > and every particle of matter that HAS mass has some > gravitational > > > > > > > effects on every other particle. Also note that, while photons > have > > > > > > > no 'rest mass', one NEVER sees a photon at rest. Rather, they > move at > > > > > > > near the speed of light (I say 'near' in order to account for > some > > > > > > > slowing that occurs as they move through whatever medium they > are > > > > > > > moving through, whether that be our atmosphere or the lens of a > > > > > > > telescope and ultimately the cornea and lens of our eye). So, > while I > > > > > > > expect you are familiar with E=MC^2 as the relationship between > energy > > > > > > > and mass, there is another equation that must also come into > play with > > > > > > > respect to photons and that is E=Fh where E is energy, F is the > > > > > > > frequency of the photon and 'h' is the Planck Constant. So, by > using > > > > > > > these two equations together, one can see that if you take the > > > > > > > frequency of a photon, F, and multiply it by the Planck > Constant, you > > > > > > > yield the 'energy' of that photon. Divide that by C^2, the > speed of > > > > > > > light in a vacuum, and you have calculated the 'mass' of the > photon. > > > > > > > It's my belief that the supposed 'dark matter' is nothing more > than > > > > > > > the gravitational trails of the countless photons moving across > space- > > > > > > > time. The more space-time that one looks through, the more > trails of > > > > > > > photon have crossed that path and, thus, the more 'dark matter' > you > > > > > > > see. Note, you only see the photons that are heading towards > your > > > > > > > eyes, those that cross across that path are NOT seen and it is > THESE > > > > > > > that I believe form the basis of the elusive dark matter that > accounts > > > > > > > for a huge amount of energy that simply passes across our line > of > > > > > > > sight. Because we don't 'see' these photons (because they > aren't > > > > > > > headed in our direction), they only show up by virtue of their > > > > > > > gravitational effects, thus they 'appear' as dark matter. > > > > > > > > > > On 6/1/10, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 30 May, 08:45, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if astrology is for real..i mean is there > a fragment > > > > > > > > > > of truth in it.. even though it seems completely > irrational...does the > > > > > > > > > > fact that it has been there for ages give it > legitimacy..or is it pure > > > > > > > > > > fluff feeding off people uncertainties about life... > > > > > > > > > > > It could well be an aspect of the general holography of the > universe. > > > > > > > > > That is, there are aspects ofthe universe which reflect the > entirety, > > > > > > > > > if one is open to looking for these reflections and know > how to > > > > > > > > > interpret them. One thing IS for sure, gravity's effect is > real and > > > > > > > > > carries across space-time from one end to the other. We > know that the > > > > > > > > > luno-solar gravity accounts for the tides and the word > 'lunacy' > > > > > > > > > implies that those tidal effects may (strictly MAY!!) also > affect our > > > > > > > > > cerebro-spinal fluid in a subtle way.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
