I hear you and acknowledge that seeming or being uninterested can be for a lot of differing reasons DarkwaterBlight, whether that be about seeming uninterested whilst in the progress of achieving enlightenment - whatever that might be ;) or no longer being interested in that particular issue after coming out the other end and it no longer having any hold on a person. If I follow my line of thinking on it, I guess ultimately it may even depend on how others perceive the person rather than what is actually happen for the person themselves. Maybe it's all only about projection in the end...
On Jul 1, 4:05 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > 'I wonder if an 'enlightened one' > is more likely to be merely uninterested as opposed to magnetic and > charismatic.' -AmandaRheen > > It may appear that way but I wonder if one, in their search for > enlightenment and looking within to explain the world/universe becomes > just as frustrated. In overcoming their own annoyance seeming > uninterested in the world around them or even opposed to some. Rather > than that being the case, turning the focus upon one's self to explain > their annoyance, disinterest or opposition to things. Once having an > answer, applying what he/she has learned for the betterment of self > and hence improving their surroundings. > > On Jun 30, 9:42 am, AmandaRheen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm not so sure that the rebel is necessarily enlightened. I agree > > with rigsy03 that the rebel is someone who is just more honest about > > rejecting what they see 'out there'. But having insight into 'out > > there' isn't necessarily the same as having insight into what's > > happening 'in here' or having a robust framework attached to why they > > might not like what's 'out there'. I wonder if an 'enlightened one' > > is more likely to be merely uninterested as opposed to magnetic and > > charismatic. > > > On Jun 14, 1:58 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "People are afraid, very much afraid of those who know themselves. > > > They have a certain power, a certain aura and a certain magnetism, a > > > charisma that can take out alive, young people from the traditional > > > imprisonment.... > > > > The enlightened man cannot be enslaved - that is the difficulty - and > > > he cannot be imprisoned.... Every genius who has known something of > > > the inner is bound to be a little difficult to be absorbed; he is > > > going to be an upsetting force. The masses don't want to be disturbed, > > > even though they may be in misery; they are in misery, but they are > > > accustomed to the misery. And anybody who is not miserable looks like > > > a stranger. > > > > The enlightened man is the greatest stranger in the world; he does not > > > seem to belong to anybody. No organization confines him, no community, > > > no society, no nation." -- Osho The Zen Manifesto: Freedom from > > > Oneself Chapter 9 > > > > Have you known rebels that make you uncomfortable? Is there a rebel > > > in you that makes others uncomfortable? Is the rebel in you able to > > > break barriers (especially internal?) With what results? > > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
