:)  Nice use of word play vam.  In terms of what are we talking about
- well I have my suspicions that it is a very individual thing, but
then hell what would I really know lol...

On Jul 1, 11:02 pm, ashok tewari <[email protected]> wrote:
> " ... enlightenment - whatever that might be ... "
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> I did sense this blind walk into darkness. What are we talking about ?
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> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:02 PM, AmandaRheen <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > I hear you and acknowledge that seeming or being uninterested can be
> > for a lot of differing reasons DarkwaterBlight, whether that be about
> > seeming uninterested whilst in the progress of achieving enlightenment
> > - whatever that might be ;)  or no longer being interested in that
> > particular issue after coming out the other end and it no longer
> > having any hold on a person.  If I follow my line of  thinking on it,
> > I guess ultimately it may even depend on how others perceive the
> > person rather than what is actually happen for the person themselves.
> > Maybe it's all only about projection in the end...
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> > On Jul 1, 4:05 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 'I wonder if an 'enlightened one'
> > > is more likely to be merely uninterested as opposed to magnetic and
> > > charismatic.' -AmandaRheen
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> > > It may appear that way but I wonder if one, in their search for
> > > enlightenment and looking within to explain the world/universe becomes
> > > just as frustrated. In overcoming their own annoyance seeming
> > > uninterested in the world around them or even opposed to some. Rather
> > > than that being the case, turning the focus upon one's self to explain
> > > their annoyance, disinterest or opposition to things. Once having an
> > > answer, applying what he/she has learned for the betterment of self
> > > and hence improving their surroundings.
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> > > On Jun 30, 9:42 am, AmandaRheen <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > I'm not so sure that the rebel is necessarily enlightened.  I agree
> > > > with rigsy03 that the rebel is someone who is just more honest about
> > > > rejecting what they see 'out there'.  But having insight into 'out
> > > > there' isn't necessarily the same as having insight into what's
> > > > happening 'in here' or having a robust framework attached to why they
> > > > might not like what's 'out there'.  I wonder if an 'enlightened one'
> > > > is more likely to be merely uninterested as opposed to magnetic and
> > > > charismatic.
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> > > > On Jun 14, 1:58 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > "People are afraid, very much afraid of those who know themselves.
> > > > > They have a certain power, a certain aura and a certain magnetism, a
> > > > > charisma that can take out alive, young people from the traditional
> > > > > imprisonment....
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> > > > > The enlightened man cannot be enslaved - that is the difficulty - and
> > > > > he cannot be imprisoned.... Every genius who has known something of
> > > > > the inner is bound to be a little difficult to be absorbed; he is
> > > > > going to be an upsetting force. The masses don't want to be
> > disturbed,
> > > > > even though they may be in misery; they are in misery, but they are
> > > > > accustomed to the misery. And anybody who is not miserable looks like
> > > > > a stranger.
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> > > > > The enlightened man is the greatest stranger in the world; he does
> > not
> > > > > seem to belong to anybody. No organization confines him, no
> > community,
> > > > > no society, no nation." -- Osho The Zen Manifesto: Freedom from
> > > > > Oneself Chapter 9
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> > > > > Have you known rebels that make you uncomfortable?  Is there a rebel
> > > > > in you that makes others uncomfortable?  Is the rebel in you able to
> > > > > break barriers (especially internal?)  With what results?
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> --
> ASHOK TEWARI

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