Mine is: I AM that. As thoughts go, it is often all that is necessary.
On Jul 10, 3:52 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > My favorite thought is....."I'm not there"....... > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM, DarkwaterBlight > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > In the words of Porky Porcupine (Pogo Comics) > > “Thar’s only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the > > universe which is smarter than we are, or we’re the most intelligent > > life in the universe. Either way, it’s a mighty sobering thought.” > > > On Jul 8, 11:25 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, I agree on both counts, in an an anthropic sense. Unfourtunately > > > we are not completely aware of what other awarenesses are out there! > > > It is pretty high minded to think that we are the most intelligent > > > life forms in this universe not to mention that of other universes. In > > > any case this was meant to describe the levels of awareness and to > > > provide a working definition of the term. This is not to say that the > > > mechanics of such process is not as you say! The assignment of meaning > > > is where it becomes challenging. Consider this (just to get back on > > > track) in the context of multiple universes; > > > > "If one lived in only 2-dimensions (aka as “Flatland”), then > > > something in the third dimension passing through our plane would > > > appear suddenly, and just as quickly disappear. From the three > > > dimensional point of view, not much has happened, but from the two > > > dimensional point of view, it’s a real eye opener. Thus why not an > > > object normally residing in four or five dimensions casually wandering > > > through our three dimensions, and thus the “hiccup”. Or perhaps an > > > ever grander event, the kind that gives rise to new religions?"-Dan > > > Sewell Ward > > > http://www.halexandria.org/dward408.htm > > > > On Jul 8, 10:34 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If there is Self-awareness or enlightenment or God-state then that > > awareness > > > > would open a new meaning to life. > > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 6:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In my experience awareness is the beginning of a process not an end > > in > > > > > itself. Awareness leads to selection among raw data of experience > > which is > > > > > then imputed with meaning. No? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Sent: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 6:51 am > > > > > Subject: Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > > > The state of enlightenment or self-realisation is called > > Turiya-avastha by > > > > > yogis. > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:16 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> The so-called state of enlightenment or self-realisation is simply a > > state > > > > >> of awareness of the organism like deep-sleep state, dream-state, > > awaken > > > > >> state. Equating the individual self or ahamkara to the Self or > > Truth, God , > > > > >> Atma is just human egoism and a desire of man to be supreme or God. > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:44 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> So I would be interested in how you shifted your attitude from a > > > > >>> relativistic subjective position like mine to what I imagined you > > believe is > > > > >>> an objective enlightened one? I am truly interested in the steps > > you took to > > > > >>> get there. I also appreciate the fact that beyond a certain point > > you will > > > > >>> probably say that words are inadequate to describe the process. > > However some > > > > >>> of the process is probably describable. No? > > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > > >>> From: ashok tewari <[email protected]> > > > > >>> To: [email protected] > > > > >>> Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 9:25 am > > > > >>> Subject: Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > > >>> Cannot say much about your chain of thoughts, though commonplace ( > > for > > > > >>> they're the very same that held sway over me not so long ago ), > > because they > > > > >>> have roots and causes within you. > > > > > >>> The self is not negated but known. Which isn't being superior - > > inferior > > > > >>> but being true, without the least psychology we are all caught up > > in. > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>>> You are apparently saying that awareness can be pure (free from > > > > >>>> contaminating subjectivity hence by passing interpretation). > > Further that > > > > >>>> the experience of 'pure' awareness enables the experiencer to > > obtain an > > > > >>>> assumed pre existing knowledge of everything. In that case I am > > doomed to > > > > >>>> experience impure awareness as it makes absolutely no sense to me > > that what > > > > >>>> ever I perceive does not necessarily involve something of my > > personal self > > > > >>>> added to whatever awareness I have. Further if such pure awareness > > you claim > > > > >>>> exists which I think equals the claims of the mystic's assertions > > of > > > > >>>> ineffability of such pure direct awareness - then to speak of the > > > > >>>> unspeakable seems to me to be little more than an expression of > > spiritual > > > > >>>> narcissism. To me at my age of 73 - this talk translated into > > human talk is > > > > >>>> really saying something like: I know something you don't know and > > what I > > > > >>>> know is vastly superior to what you know and don't play word games > > with me > > > > >>>> when I say no words can describe it because that is the truth and > > too bad > > > > >>>> you don't know it. > > > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > > >>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> > > > > >>>> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > > >>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 7:48 am > > > > >>>> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > > >>>> Very good! > > > > > >>>> On Jul 7, 3:58 am, ashok tewari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > Telling doesn't help, as in wouldn't communicate. > > > > > >>>> > Try being without the relatedness you feel for things you know, > > even for a > > > > > >>>> > moment, as you do in the state of deep sleep, without actually > > falling deep > > > > > >>>> > asleep ! > > > > > >>>> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > Pray tell. > > > > > >>>> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>>> > > From: ashok tewari <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>> > > To: [email protected] > > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 2:12 am > > > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > > >>>> > > " Or do you somehow have special knowledge?" > > > > > >>>> > > I do. > > > > > >>>> > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:07 AM, <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > >> Assuming you are a human and not the "God" you are > > describing - then you > > > > > >>>> > >> can not be certain that > > > > > >>>> > >> the assertions you are making about absolute reality are > > accurate. So we > > > > > >>>> > >> are back to the position of Aquinas re > > > > > >>>> > >> faith and reason. As a man of faith you can believe whatever > > you wish and > > > > > >>>> > >> obviously do - but in terms of > > > > > >>>> > >> reason you apparently know as little for certain as the rest > > of us. Or do > > > > > >>>> > >> you somehow have special knowledge? > > > > > >>>> > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>>> > >> From: vamadevananda <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>> > >> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>> > >> Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 12:25 am > > > > > >>>> > >> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > > >>>> > >> It is unknown to us humans. It is known to God, but not in > > the manner > > > > > >>>> > >> in which humans relate to things known to them or to matters > > unknown. > > > > > >>>> > >> On Jul 6, 6:36 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > >>>> > >> > But -is the future known or unknown? > > > > > ... > > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > \--/ Peace- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
