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On Jul 15, 3:43 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> No change there then Slip.  Give me a bell if you get no sleep and
> I'll have the day in!
>
> On 15 July, 06:29, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Much of the fears you cite have been quelled in our time.  We've
> > commandeered much of the planet and created secure environs in which
> > to abide without fear.  While fear plays a role in our daily lives it
> > is no longer the driving force of our existence, perhaps for some but
> > not for all.  I'm sure there are places where what you present is as
> > real today as it was in the past but for much of the world it no
> > longer holds true. We have a great deal of amenities and for many life
> > is good with little to fear.  There is something much more powerful
> > than fear and that is the cosmos.  What is there to fear, "really"?
>
> > Let's not veer too far off track but remember this is or at least was
> > about your insistence that men fear and hate women, that all male
> > dominance is attributed to fear and your attempt to validate this
> > assertion by means of primal emotion.
>
> > My primal emotion right now is exhaustion and I fear if I don't get
> > some sleep I'll be a beast all day tomorrow.
>
> > Bueno!
>
> > On Jul 14, 5:09 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "... On Jul 14, 1:37 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: ..."
>
> > > > So the "Danger" is what?  Something else that is full of fear?  
>
> > > Danger is anything that threatens one's life or peaceful pursuit
> > > thereof.  Human beings, being the most xenophobic of all species, find
> > > danger everywhere -- even where it's not.  But of all the things there
> > > are to be afraid of, the one I'm most afraid of is someone who is
> > > afraid of me.   Fear makes people react irrationally if predictably.
>
> > > > Not at
> > > > all.  Two animals full of fear run in opposite directions and one that
> > > > is running from fear is running from something that is not fearful.
> > > > So that is obviously another primal emotion, one of aggression and
> > > > hostility.
>
> > > Aggression and running are the two classic reactions to fear.
> > > Psychologists have determined this to a high degree of accuracy.  Fear
> > > elicits two basic reactions: fight or flight.
>
> > > > You go on to categorize fear as a "survival tool" and while you are
> > > > absolutely correct in assessing it as a survival mechanism the
> > > > disregard of other existing primal emotions is the flaw in your
> > > > argument.
>
> > > I hold there is but one primal emotion by its definition.  But
> > > granting the benefit of an error, please name for me what you see as
> > > the other primal emotions?
>
> > > > Gruff, really, I find it most odd that you would resort to biblical
> > > > reference in an attempt to push a point when you have been one of the
> > > > most outspoken atheists in here. Maybe the agave my friend?  Chill
> > > > Mon!
>
> > > Being atheist I enjoy quoting biblical references in support of my
> > > points.
>
> > > > However, what you are trying to do is update the
> > > > workings of modernity with ancient and antiquated notions. The
> > > > examples you present are invalid on the basis of current scientific
> > > > knowledge of earthly rumblings and outbursts of an active planet.
>
> > > Okay, again please point out the specifics of my errors.  What are the
> > > ancient and antiquated notions about which I am mistaken?  And has not
> > > the planet always been violent, though more so in the past than now,
> > > but still violent.  Though earth may appear peaceful from space, down
> > > here on it's surface it's pretty damned violent.
>
> > > > Well I have to say that your life in the desert affords you more time
> > > > for all this but around here the shit hits the fan often and I have to
> > > > say that the fan is a blowin and I'm a needin to goin.
>
> > > > So I'll get back to this later.
>
> > > > Adios Amigo!
>
> > > Good luck with that ....

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