"the truth is true spirituality is a rough row to hoe.."

Time to true your spirituality concept, my friend. ;-)


On 17 Jul., 10:15, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ordination of women s not of particular interest,   Ended up in a
> converstion many many years ago   and was asked that question by a episcable
> minister  oddly enough  and the answer that came out was :
> Life is about balance.. women primary role in a spiritual life is giving
> birth to new life this is a role a man can not give,, man only plays a minor
> role in the creation life, to balance that out by the ordination of men the
> role of giving spiritual life and nurturing of that life. . It is a balance
> thing within spirituality.:
>
> I have been involved with parishes with women pastors, the truth is that
> they lacked the zing I need to grow, the nurturing and spiritual life does
> require nurturing, Although I think the world of her husband and her as a
> person,  her spirituality is a wash in the eddies of feminism..
>
> To me spirituality is an evolutionary process if you are not growing, you
> are dying.. your choice.   To become awash in the eddy currents .. well they
> tend to prevent spiritual development in my opinion. the truth is true
> spirituality is a rough row to hoe.. although when you are involved in it
> you tend to not notice .
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:10 PM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "... On Jul 13, 5:48 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: ..."
>
> > > The Catholic Church enshrined Our Lady as a substitute for pagan
> > > female deities- some say Aphrodite- but that could be argued re the
> > > virgin birth. The sacrificed hero was also pagan in origin and applied
> > > to Jesus.//Greeks celebrated the male and female body but most of
> > > those statues were destroyed by Jews and Christians- or de-faced.//
> > > Long robes and coverings have also been in western culture plus they
> > > serve a valid purpose in desert and dusty climes. And the West also
> > > has had serious expectations of proper ladylike behavior.
>
> > JULY 15, 2010 1:58PM
>
> >http://open.salon.com/blog/fingerlakeswanderer/2010/07/15/ordaining_a...
> > ORDAINING A WOMEN = RAPING A CHILD
>
> > Canon Law was clarified today to say the following: The Vatican  today
> > made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes
> > under church law, putting it in the same category as clerical sex
> > abuse of minors, heresy and schism.
>
> > The new rules, which have been sent to bishops around the world, apply
> > equally to Catholic women who agree to a ceremony of ordination and to
> > the bishop who conducts it. Both would be excommunicated. Since the
> > Vatican does not accept that women can become priests, it does not
> > recognize the outcome of any such ceremony.
>
> > The whole article is interesting, especially the part about the
> > Malleus Maleficarum.  (c.1487)
> > See alsohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarumfor more on
> > this defamation of women
>
> > Four major religions -- Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity, and Islam --
> > simply cannot accept that women are full human beings, endowed by
> > their Creator with the rights to a full life.   The theory that women
> > are evil and to be dominated and controlled is still manifested in
> > attitudes held my many men today.  I've met more men than I care to
> > who believe women are to be kept barefoot, pregnant and in the
> > kitchen.  There are also many men who believe it was a major mistake
> > for women to be given the right to hold property, inherit her
> > husband's property, vote, hold office, and other such denials of basic
> > rights.  What's even more astounding is that there are a substantial
> > number of women who agree with this virtual enslavement.
>
> > Given the eons old animosity between men and women, I have to ask how
> > any rational person can expect our species to carry on when one half
> > of it fears / hates the other half.
>
> --
>  (
>   )
> I_D Allan
>
> Be Paranoid.
> God is always building a better idiot!!!

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