On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> "the truth is true spirituality is a rough row to hoe.." > > Time to true your spirituality concept, my friend. ;-) > > naw, spirituality is a rough row to hoe,, oh it is easy if you accept the way churches teach it.. no problem.. . Allan > > On 17 Jul., 10:15, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ordination of women s not of particular interest, Ended up in a > > converstion many many years ago and was asked that question by a > episcable > > minister oddly enough and the answer that came out was : > > Life is about balance.. women primary role in a spiritual life is giving > > birth to new life this is a role a man can not give,, man only plays a > minor > > role in the creation life, to balance that out by the ordination of men > the > > role of giving spiritual life and nurturing of that life. . It is a > balance > > thing within spirituality.: > > > > I have been involved with parishes with women pastors, the truth is that > > they lacked the zing I need to grow, the nurturing and spiritual life > does > > require nurturing, Although I think the world of her husband and her as a > > person, her spirituality is a wash in the eddies of feminism.. > > > > To me spirituality is an evolutionary process if you are not growing, you > > are dying.. your choice. To become awash in the eddy currents .. well > they > > tend to prevent spiritual development in my opinion. the truth is true > > spirituality is a rough row to hoe.. although when you are involved in it > > you tend to not notice . > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:10 PM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "... On Jul 13, 5:48 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: ..." > > > > > > The Catholic Church enshrined Our Lady as a substitute for pagan > > > > female deities- some say Aphrodite- but that could be argued re the > > > > virgin birth. The sacrificed hero was also pagan in origin and > applied > > > > to Jesus.//Greeks celebrated the male and female body but most of > > > > those statues were destroyed by Jews and Christians- or de-faced.// > > > > Long robes and coverings have also been in western culture plus they > > > > serve a valid purpose in desert and dusty climes. And the West also > > > > has had serious expectations of proper ladylike behavior. > > > > > JULY 15, 2010 1:58PM > > > > >http://open.salon.com/blog/fingerlakeswanderer/2010/07/15/ordaining_a. > .. > > > ORDAINING A WOMEN = RAPING A CHILD > > > > > Canon Law was clarified today to say the following: The Vatican today > > > made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes > > > under church law, putting it in the same category as clerical sex > > > abuse of minors, heresy and schism. > > > > > The new rules, which have been sent to bishops around the world, apply > > > equally to Catholic women who agree to a ceremony of ordination and to > > > the bishop who conducts it. Both would be excommunicated. Since the > > > Vatican does not accept that women can become priests, it does not > > > recognize the outcome of any such ceremony. > > > > > The whole article is interesting, especially the part about the > > > Malleus Maleficarum. (c.1487) > > > See alsohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarumfor more on > > > this defamation of women > > > > > Four major religions -- Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity, and Islam -- > > > simply cannot accept that women are full human beings, endowed by > > > their Creator with the rights to a full life. The theory that women > > > are evil and to be dominated and controlled is still manifested in > > > attitudes held my many men today. I've met more men than I care to > > > who believe women are to be kept barefoot, pregnant and in the > > > kitchen. There are also many men who believe it was a major mistake > > > for women to be given the right to hold property, inherit her > > > husband's property, vote, hold office, and other such denials of basic > > > rights. What's even more astounding is that there are a substantial > > > number of women who agree with this virtual enslavement. > > > > > Given the eons old animosity between men and women, I have to ask how > > > any rational person can expect our species to carry on when one half > > > of it fears / hates the other half. > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > > Be Paranoid. > > God is always building a better idiot!!! > -- ( ) I_D Allan Be Paranoid. God is always building a better idiot!!!
