"... On Jul 20, 8:17 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: ..."

> I preferred Townsend's 'Up The Organisation' from about the same
> time.  

I'd forgotten about Up The Organization (1970).  It was a more popular
book and far more accurate than PP, of which I only read part and
considered it more of a satire on corporate bureaucracy.  Up The
Organization was a more serious exposition of the corporate world.
Unfortunately hardly anyone took it to heart.

To my thinking the most destructive part of governments, corporations
and virtually any other organization or group is the tendency toward
bureaucracy (which is pretty much what both PP and UTO are about).  I
have to figure that part of our problem as a species is our seemingly
predominant self-destruct instinct.  Over the years I've observed in
many people in many situations (myself included) that we tend to
behave -- for whatever reason -- another discussion there -- in a
manner that leads to our own defeat.   This is such a long-standing
human trait that we have many names and nicknames and descriptions for
it: cutting off our own nose to spite our face, telling a lie when the
truth would serve us better, we have met the enemy and they are us.
I'm sure you can think of a hundred more, but regardless, it does seem
to be a very widespread human activity.  Nowhere it this self-
destructive nature more in evidence than in our politics.

> What surprises me is the faith we put in leaders and the extent
> to which we allow them to disproportionately reward themselves.

That follows if you think about it.  If our method of assessing and
electing politicians is rife with ego, animosity, raw thoughtless
emotion and every other character trait that is antithetical to reason
and rationale, it follows that the politicians we elect into
leadership positions would be much the same.  Our politics and
politicians are a reflection of the society and the individual.   I
know I make this reference in excess but it's my favorite: M. Twain -
People get the sort of government they deserve.

> In economic terms I think we have forgotten what real work is and become
> a neurocracy (most 'work' is pretended).  

I'm not sure how you meant that other than via the modifying reference
to pretended work.  While the latter has validity and from my
experience is usually connected to minimum wage jobs, union jobs and
bureaucracies of any nature with a special emphasis on governmental
bureaucracies, neurocracy is a valid area of scientific study.  A
paper entitled "What do Brodmann areas do?  Or:  Scanning the
neurocracy" holds that cognitive neuroscience is committed to fusion
of mind and brain under the concept of the neurocracy:  the whole mind
is the sum of the actions of myriad brainy parts. (http://
www.trincoll.edu/~dlloyd/brodmann.html)

My take when I first read your post was that you don't count mental
activity as real work, but I think I know better.  I also think I know
what you meant by neurocracy in the context you gave it: when someone
works harder getting out of work than they otherwise would have
worked.  (Responsibility can be substituted for work.)  Eh?

> Palin Principle is spot on.  The big mistake may be to think these leadership 
> roles are at all
> useful.

I'd modify that to:  The big mistake may be thinking the people we put
in leadership roles are responsible.  I'd also say that leadership
roles are pretty much necessary in any society.   I don't see us (the
species) achieving the state of mind necessary for true anarchy to
work for another few millenia.

I mean, from the people's point of view (vs the perspective from on
high) the purpose of a leader is to take the reins and guide the
followers to a commonly agreed upon goal.  Part of that responsibility
is relieving the citizens of having to expend time and effort seeing
to things that are better left to a government or some other
responsible entity.  That should also be a leader's perspective but in
many cases it presents as nothing more than pure ego gratification
with no thought to the ethics, morality or responsibilities of the
position.

A classic example of this sort of politician is/was John Edwards.  To
me from the first time I saw him talking on tv, he was empty, vapid,
willing to use any cause to further his own glory.  I used to chuckle
watching him preen himself on live tv.  The sad part was that he had
so many people fooled, but that's part and parcel of a democracy.  You
can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool a good
portion of them long enough to make some good memories, even if you
wind up in jail.  I'll bet Bernie Madoff is having fun in spite of the
life sentence.

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