I think we've just turned a corner.  The U.S. has finally passed
substantial financial reform and I think that will spur you guys and
Europe (including the EU) to doing the same instead of piecemealing it
to pieces.

Once financial reform is under the belt and investors, banks and
financial institutions feel safe with it, lending will open up a bit
which in turn will get businesses spending and expanding with some of
the trillions they have stashed away.

The final piece of the jigsaw is to get the consumers to spend.  Right
now consumers both here and in the EU are being frugal -- for the
first time in fifty years -- and are reluctant to spend.  Once the
pursestrings are open and money is flowing the economy of what we call
the developed world can begin to stand ground against the likes of
China, India, Brazil and Russia.

None of the BRIC (with the exception of Russia because they can't
break the stranglehold criminal gangs have on their nation) got hurt
very badly in the crash and recession and right now are on top because
they hold a lot of the global debt.  But once the rest of us gear back
up we can show them what for.  China of late has been getting a bit
overbearing with it's demands in spite of its own reluctance to let
the Rinminbi float a bit freer.

My best guess is that by the end of Obama's term in office we'll be
wheeling and dealing again.  I hope it's visible enough before the
2011 campaigning to get him re-elected to office.

I know, I know.  There are a lot who don't like that idea.  But if you
give the man his due, he's gotten a hell of a lot done in the first
year and three-quarters.  He set up a plan and date to get us out of
Iraq.  He set a date to begin to get us out of Afghanistan and put a
man in charge of the mess who might possibly have a chance of getting
a reasonable job done.  He got a major health-care bill passed which
finally places us among the ranks of the developed nations who have
one.  He got a major financial reform bill passed which has already
started stabilizing the marketplace and making risk attractive again.
He has begun to deal with the immigration problem and is pressing
forward with a plan to get us off of foreign oil in the next decade or
less.  And he has also started to look noticeably tired and his hair
is grayer than it was 18 months ago.

On Jul 20, 5:19 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a feeling the Peter Principle was written in the late 50's
> Gruff.  I always objected to it because it suggested people were
> promoted because they were ever good at something.  I favour
> cooperatives and think we should restrict pay and other earnings to
> individuals, but I'm not happy with centralised government squandering
> the capital produced. It breaks my back these days using hand tools
> to  dig my vegetable garden.  This produces about a quarter of our
> food.  Technology has brought massive productivity rises, meaning we
> should have more leisure and so on. I don't want some Indonesian guy
> breaking his back on my behalf. I think economics should start in such
> considerations.

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