Not sure the logic you present is applicable Pat, I would think it to
be 'all' unwilling based on your proposed concept because all of life
is, as you have purported previously, pre-willed and part of the space
time continuum on account of the omnipotence.  All incarnations would
be willed by the omnipotent one as well as any multiple levels,
chakra, lives, mortality and immortality, etc x 3  Isn't this where
you stand or have you changed/modified your platform?  Just the
addition of such an element, that being omnipotence, suggests
purposeful intent; the obverse being "impotent passive onlooker" which
is unlikely according to your premise.


On Aug 4, 7:20 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2 Aug, 07:55, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A person might have taken many births before this one. According to Hindu
> > mythology  the soul has to pass birth in 8.4 million species before getting
> > birth in the human species. Also a person might have been born many times as
> > a human being , what I meant by first life was the very first time a soul
> > took birth. As he had never taken birth before that , then where were his
> > karma as a consequence of which he took birth.
>
> Logic, based on the concept of an omnipotent entity (Brahman, if you
> will), would mean that incarnation must be of two types, willing and
> unwilling.  Both MUST be possible, or Brahman is NOT omnipotent.  And
> Brahman IS omnipotent.
>
>
>
> > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > What I don't get is why he took
> > > > birth in his first life?  RP
>
> > > What do you mean by "take" birth?  As in a choosing of or a life
> > > assigned?
>
> > > Is there choice in reincarnation?
>
> > > Also, how could it be known if the prior life was the "first" life?
>
> > > On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > According to the theory of reincarnation a person takes birth as a
> > > > consequence of his actions in his past life.
>
> > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7Ge7Sogrk
>
> > > > > Does this example seem to give some credence to the idea of
> > > > > reincarnation?
>
> > > > > Where does this Elephant get this ability?
>
> > > > > Are there random elements of soul/spirit floating about in the cosmos?
>
> > > > > Or is this simply a product of a serious trainer animal relationship?
>
> > > > > What are your thoughts on this?
>
> > > > >http://www.exoticworldgifts.com/Categories.bok?category=Elephant%20Pa.
> > > ..
>
> > > > > I don't see too much variety in the compositions other than the
> > > > > repetitive elephant pose and the floral arrangements so I'm
> > > > > wondering.- Hide quoted text -
>
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