Not unlikely at all, Slip. Pat IS also the "impotent passive onlooker"
while having a migraine attack, willingly and/or unwillingly, it
doesn't matter. It was the stumbling that got snow white out of her
glass coffin.

On 5 Aug., 05:22, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not sure the logic you present is applicable Pat, I would think it to
> be 'all' unwilling based on your proposed concept because all of life
> is, as you have purported previously, pre-willed and part of the space
> time continuum on account of the omnipotence.  All incarnations would
> be willed by the omnipotent one as well as any multiple levels,
> chakra, lives, mortality and immortality, etc x 3  Isn't this where
> you stand or have you changed/modified your platform?  Just the
> addition of such an element, that being omnipotence, suggests
> purposeful intent; the obverse being "impotent passive onlooker" which
> is unlikely according to your premise.
>
> On Aug 4, 7:20 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 2 Aug, 07:55, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > A person might have taken many births before this one. According to Hindu
> > > mythology  the soul has to pass birth in 8.4 million species before 
> > > getting
> > > birth in the human species. Also a person might have been born many times 
> > > as
> > > a human being , what I meant by first life was the very first time a soul
> > > took birth. As he had never taken birth before that , then where were his
> > > karma as a consequence of which he took birth.
>
> > Logic, based on the concept of an omnipotent entity (Brahman, if you
> > will), would mean that incarnation must be of two types, willing and
> > unwilling.  Both MUST be possible, or Brahman is NOT omnipotent.  And
> > Brahman IS omnipotent.
>
> > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > What I don't get is why he took
> > > > > birth in his first life?  RP
>
> > > > What do you mean by "take" birth?  As in a choosing of or a life
> > > > assigned?
>
> > > > Is there choice in reincarnation?
>
> > > > Also, how could it be known if the prior life was the "first" life?
>
> > > > On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > According to the theory of reincarnation a person takes birth as a
> > > > > consequence of his actions in his past life.
>
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7Ge7Sogrk
>
> > > > > > Does this example seem to give some credence to the idea of
> > > > > > reincarnation?
>
> > > > > > Where does this Elephant get this ability?
>
> > > > > > Are there random elements of soul/spirit floating about in the 
> > > > > > cosmos?
>
> > > > > > Or is this simply a product of a serious trainer animal 
> > > > > > relationship?
>
> > > > > > What are your thoughts on this?
>
> > > > > >http://www.exoticworldgifts.com/Categories.bok?category=Elephant%20Pa.
> > > > ..
>
> > > > > > I don't see too much variety in the compositions other than the
> > > > > > repetitive elephant pose and the floral arrangements so I'm
> > > > > > wondering.- Hide quoted text -
>
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