This is very exciting research! Thanks for the link.
On Aug 9, 9:39 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > There is a cellular biologist, Bruce Lipton, that is tenured at the > University of Wisconsin, Madison, and has been studying the effects of > thoughts and our internal environment on our DNA for a couple of > decades. He has hooked himself into the Louise Hay circuit, and my > opinion is that this may damage his credibility although I know that > he did it to get this info to as many people as quickly as possible. > His studies of identical twins separated at birth and raised with > different families show that the DNA of each resembles the DNA of > their families (not biological) more than each other or their family > of origin. > > His thesis is: "It shows that genes and DNA do not control our > biology; that instead DNA is controlled by signals from outside the > cell, including the energetic messages emanating from our positive and > negative thoughts. Dr. Lipton’s profoundly hopeful synthesis of the > latest and best research in cell biology and quantum physics is being > hailed as a major breakthrough showing that our bodies can be changed > as we retrain our thinking." > http://www.brucelipton.com/interviews-with-bruce/ > > I think his work comes the closest that I have seen to making sense of > the real workings of DNA and our evolutionary process. Here in middle > age, as I look around me at the people I have seen live long enough to > make it here, I can see that the careless, angry people look very old, > the pleasant loving people look incredibly young for their age. Our > internal environments - beliefs, thoughts, feelings, emotions, ego > patterns, sleep patterns - have a profound effect on our biologic > function. Sometimes, just recognizing this can create a huge shift in > our health. > > On Aug 9, 8:45 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 5 Aug, 15:27, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have to agree that evolution is not neccesarily an enlightening > > > though. As Deane points out, the survival of the species is the reason > > > for adaptation. I think that awareness can promote evolution of the > > > mind but somehow evolution may be involuntary and we might not be > > > aware of it. > > > This gets Rumsfeldian. There are both recombination and mutation that > > are 'known knowns' and the aspect of epigenetic mutations are a 'known > > unknown', in that we know ABOUT epigenetics and that they can be > > tweaked by reactions to our environment, but we DON'T know exactly how > > they get tweaked or how (exactly) they are coded or how (exactly) they > > are triggered or how they are passed on. So there are elements of > > 'unknown knowns' (all those 'hows' above) and the ever-popular > > 'unknown unknowns', of which only Don himself can speak. ;-) > > > >Nature somehow provides for our needs and 'knows' in > > > which direction we need to evolve. I'm starting to get on my Gaia > > > thing again. LOL! > > > > On Aug 5, 9:48 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hey Doug, > > > > > That's a good point and one I did not think of. I can't help but > > > > think though if such a state can be said to be evolution. > > > > > If it contiunes this way, people wil form groups of which they will > > > > communicate with and groups of which they will keep away from(and yes > > > > this is the very way I approach life myself) then I can see the > > > > inevitable result would be commuinties divided by mindset and > > > > ideology, rather than geography. > > > > > I'm not sure if you have ever heard me wax lyrical about what I think > > > > will be the way humanity goes, my ideas on tribalizastion and anarchy? > > > > > This ties in nicely with it though. Still dived commuinites > > > > eascpecialy divison along idelogical grounds is bound to bring with it > > > > much trouble unless we can agree on certian priniples, free travel > > > > between comminties so that people who have idealogical changes are > > > > free and unencombered to leave and join other communities is the very > > > > first, and the idea of 'leave them to it' is the second. > > > > > I wouldn't call it evolution without these two principles being agreed > > > > and acted upon though, I would call it same old same old. > > > > > On 5 Aug, 14:28, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I would imagine that anyone might 'evolve' to any degree on the > > > > > spectrum either way. I do agree with Molly's post to the extent that > > > > > as knowledge and awareness increase so does understanding and empathy. > > > > > Yes it is true that people are more aprehensive and tend to keep to > > > > > thier own but that's understandable. This aprehensiveness comes from > > > > > the awareness of negative aspects in society. This is not to say that > > > > > people are not forming better relationship but rather, are more > > > > > selective about the relationships that are persued. Becoming close to > > > > > those who live nearby can be dangerous these days. I spoke with an old > > > > > friend last week who used to live across the street fom me. A mutual > > > > > aquaintance lives next door to her and had been coming to her house > > > > > and talking to her boyfriend. She was a little nervous about his > > > > > presence at times but brushed it aside. Apparently the guy was coming > > > > > over at night when her BF was at work borrowing DVD's and she would > > > > > not let him in but he would come in during the day when her BF was > > > > > home. One night, she said, she woke up and the guy was in her bedroom > > > > > going through her dresser drawer. Her BF happened to be off this > > > > > evening and the left real quick saying he just returning the DVD he > > > > > had borrowed. The BF went after him and was going to kick his ass but > > > > > she stopped him from doing so. > > > > > > On Aug 5, 8:22 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 5 Aug, 11:26, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think I disagree. > > > > > > > > In my little part of the world it seems that people are haveing > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > to do with each other, I barely know my neigbours, we are still > > > > > > > fighting in Afganistan and Iraq, religious fundematlisim may be > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > rise. > > > > > > > > No I see little evidance of any evolution of relationships, and > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > some for the opposite. > > > > > > > Could not the concept of 'evolution' be movement in either a > > > > > > positive > > > > > > or negative direction? And your experience is simply evolution in a > > > > > > negative direction. Remember: it's a spectrum!! > > > > > > > > On 3 Aug, 13:46, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > All aspects of human civilization—language, art, aesthetics, > > > > > > > > technology, architecture, organizations, governments—depend upon > > > > > > > > essential human relationships for their evolution and > > > > > > > > expression. > > > > > > > > > * Question: What is actually evolving? > > > > > > > > > * Answer: The quality and quantity of relationships between > > > > > > > > people, > > > > > > > > assuming the form of shared meanings, agreements, relationships > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > groups of relationships. The cultural domain is > > > > > > > > inter-subjective, > > > > > > > > because it exists between subjects, yet is often not objectively > > > > > > > > identifiable. But the fact that these shared spaces of meaning > > > > > > > > are not > > > > > > > > objectively identifiable does not hinder us from experiencing > > > > > > > > them as > > > > > > > > being real. As such, the subjective world includes not only > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > consciousness but the inter-subjective domain of relationships > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > well, making the interior universe much more substantial. These > > > > > > > > relationships are real, yet they exist in the internal > > > > > > > > universe. The > > > > > > > > evolution of this internal universe accounts for the fact that > > > > > > > > women, > > > > > > > > children, and minorities now experience and possess more > > > > > > > > freedoms than > > > > > > > > in any time in written history. > > > > > > > > > What do YOU think? > > > > > > > > > For more: > > > > > > > > http://www.i-awake.net/2010/08/spiral-dynamics-introduction.html-Hide... > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
