On 13 Aug, 14:22, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 13 Aug, 14:13, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > And I would of course deny all of this, yet if I do Pat would have it > > that in fact I deny nowt and that God within is doing the denying, > > however I can see contradiction here. > > Just name the contradictions, then. You've nailed my response and my > reasons for it. Is it just that you find it distasteful and demand > that you have SOME power even in the face of Omnipotence? I find > contradictions between 'free will' and Omnipotence. That is, God > CAN'T be Omnipotent, if people can act freely and, in essence, act > against His Will. If you can argue for Omnipotence and Free Will > without dancing around that conundrum, I'm all ears. Otherwise, you > end up having your free will but, in having it, you no longer have a > God that is omnipotent and, therefore, not worthy of worship. Whilst > I maintain an Omnipotent being and only have to submit to that which > MUST have complete power anyway. And I can find NO contradictions in > that. But, I'm all ears with respect to hearing an argument for both > having an omnipotent God and people retaining free will. That is, > I'll listen, but I've already outed the inherent contradiction in > that, but I'm willing to listen to arguments that MAY discover a way > around it. Lead on, MacDuff.... ;-) >
Just to add...I'm leaving work early today, so I may have to attend to your response next week. I.e., if I don't repond immediately, it won't be because I'm being rude or, necessarily, that you've stumped me; it could just be that I only have access when I'm at work. ;-) > > > > On 13 Aug, 14:02, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It's just as likely that you are controlled by your parents and > > > thereafter the State. > > > > On Aug 12, 11:47 pm, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I am this organism and was born, will live and die. Whatever I think , > > > > feel and do is controlled by Nature , within me , and outside me. I > > > > feel free because I am part of that Nature.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
