Hello

there is no contradiction between Omnipotence and freewill, if the One chooses 
to allow it.  Same idea as children being allowed to make mistakes.

Deane 

> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:22:43 -0700
> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: The Phenomenon ' I '
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
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> On 13 Aug, 14:13, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > And I would of course deny all of this, yet if I do Pat would have it
> > that in fact I deny nowt and that God within is doing the denying,
> > however I can see contradiction here.
> >
> 
> Just name the contradictions, then.  You've nailed my response and my
> reasons for it.  Is it just that you find it distasteful and demand
> that you have SOME power even in the face of Omnipotence?  I find
> contradictions between 'free will' and Omnipotence.  That is, God
> CAN'T be Omnipotent, if people can act freely and, in essence, act
> against His Will.  If you can argue for Omnipotence and Free Will
> without dancing around that conundrum, I'm all ears.  Otherwise, you
> end up having your free will but, in having it, you no longer have a
> God that is omnipotent and, therefore, not worthy of worship.  Whilst
> I maintain an Omnipotent being and only have to submit to that which
> MUST have complete power anyway.  And I can find NO contradictions in
> that.  But, I'm all ears with respect to hearing an argument for both
> having an omnipotent God and people retaining free will.  That is,
> I'll listen, but I've already outed the inherent contradiction in
> that, but I'm willing to listen to arguments that MAY discover a way
> around it.  Lead on, MacDuff....  ;-)
> 
> > On 13 Aug, 14:02, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > It's just as likely that you are controlled by your parents and
> > > thereafter the State.
> >
> > > On Aug 12, 11:47 pm, RP <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > I am this organism and was born, will live and die. Whatever I think ,
> > > > feel and do is controlled by Nature , within me , and outside me. I
> > > > feel free because I am part of that Nature.- Hide quoted text -
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