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The new paradigm...or, not so new? On Aug 24, 7:56 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 21 Aug, 23:39, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > "... On Aug 20, 5:18 am, Pat <[email protected]> > > wrote: ..." > > > > And I'd bet on the opposite happening. On that Last Day, the atheists > > > will finally understand what a huge error they've made...but it will > > > be too late to change their minds. Tell you what, if I'm right, we'll > > > both be returning on that day and we'll see. If you're right, it > > > simply won't matter as there will be no 'recall'. If we are > > > resurrected, then you'll know. And we'll both be waiting. You wait > > > and I'll wait. > > > Ah well, you see Pat, you assume something about me based on my > > admission I'm atheist that is not true. You assume that #1, there is > > an end. I don't see that at all. It's more likely that life will go > > on forever just changing form and substance as time flows by. You > > also seem to assume that #2, if I'm right there will be no recall (or > > afterlife). Nothing could be further from the truth. I do believe in > > the possibility of life after death and even retaining individual > > identity (as opposed to just a vast pool of undifferentiated > > afterlife.) My belief is based in science alone: The laws of > > conservation of matter and energy. It seems to me they pretty much > > dictate that life or its energy will continue on after the > > disintegration of this body in another form perhaps. My belief (or > > perhaps it is a fervent hope) that it may be possible for an > > individual human's energy (no other species) to retain its unique > > identity simply based on my belief that human beings are the supreme > > creatures in the Universe. Now some may consider this belief to be > > as far-fetched as what I think belief in gods is, but that's all > > right. The proof is in the pudding. > > Well, I like your approach. Conservation of energy is very important > and something many atheists don't consider in the way you do. It > sounds to me like you allow for the possibility of a God, > though...just that you aren't convinced or are of the strongly-leaning- > towards-atheism-due-to-lack-of-evidence-otherwise, which is fair > enough. However, what makes you think human beings are the supreme > creatures of the universe? Why not dolphins? They don't have wars. > I don't find your views far-fetched--certainly nowhere near as far- > fetched as some people find mine. ;-)
