I mostly go along because I contend not only afterlife but parallel life as well based on dream lucidity, near death and coma/ unconsciousness experiences. The fall off for me is your negation of other species prior, present and future life history. Perhaps some animals exhibit extreme levels of behavior, among their respective species because they have some multiplicity to their being which could be attributed to numerous theories including matter/energy influence, soul etc, and I would also lean towards mass particle formation of which our universe comprises. I do have to say that in some past postings I've noted negation of cross species re incarnations; another aspect and somewhat related. I think we should accept the fact that afterlife could take on many different forms and have positive/negative perspectives. The ideas and notions that have emerged over the course of human history is multitudinous, none of which has presented anything conclusive. No one has ever visited from the past or the future with information and so that points to the idea that all of this is useless theory and nothing happens beyond physical death; we can only dream. Life is still an adventure to experience here regardless of the milestones along the journey. It is the ultimate enigma in human life; the mystery of life and death.
On Aug 22, 8:57 am, [email protected] wrote: > And if resurrected I predict the same old politics. There will either be > high level politics in which the right to dissent will be > > valued and encouraged - or there will be suppression of unpopular opinion. In > any event no need to bother ourselves about > > such a future - > > -----Original Message----- > From: iam deheretic <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:19 am > Subject: Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: The Phenomenon ' I ' > > Personally gruff > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:39 AM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > "... On Aug 20, 5:18 am, Pat <[email protected]> > wrote: ..." > > > And I'd bet on the opposite happening. On that Last Day, the atheists > > will finally understand what a huge error they've made...but it will > > be too late to change their minds. Tell you what, if I'm right, we'll > > both be returning on that day and we'll see. If you're right, it > > simply won't matter as there will be no 'recall'. If we are > > resurrected, then you'll know. And we'll both be waiting. You wait > > and I'll wait. > > Ah well, you see Pat, you assume something about me based on my > admission I'm atheist that is not true. You assume that #1, there is > an end. I don't see that at all. It's more likely that life will go > on forever just changing form and substance as time flows by. You > also seem to assume that #2, if I'm right there will be no recall (or > afterlife). Nothing could be further from the truth. I do believe in > the possibility of life after death and even retaining individual > identity (as opposed to just a vast pool of undifferentiated > afterlife.) My belief is based in science alone: The laws of > conservation of matter and energy. It seems to me they pretty much > dictate that life or its energy will continue on after the > disintegration of this body in another form perhaps. My belief (or > perhaps it is a fervent hope) that it may be possible for an > individual human's energy (no other species) to retain its unique > identity simply based on my belief that human beings are the supreme > creatures in the Universe. Now some may consider this belief to be > as far-fetched as what I think belief in gods is, but that's all > right. The proof is in the pudding. > > I think your above stated position is excellent.. personal experience > separates us. > Kind of like I believe ,, but not all the crap. > Allan > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > Be Paranoid. > God is always building a better idiot!!! > > =
