Smile DW congratulations...you have that right we are souls..it is the body that is temporary.. Allan
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:46 PM, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]>wrote: > I will give you this much; I am me and no one else; No one else is me > nor can be. You have me mistaken for one who believes that we have > souls! I, on the contrary, believe we ARE souls. > > On Dec 16, 11:07 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > A clone would be exactly like me but may differ in personality traits and > > circumstances according to his upbringing. Due to some environmental > factors > > I might be a failure but he may be a success and as such his identity > would > > be completely different. If the same environment had been given to me I > > would have been vastly different from what I am today and thus I would > not > > be what I am. I relate to my identity and what I am I would not be if the > > identity had been different. There is essentially no difference between > you > > and me except that of identity and we cannot be said to be the same > > individual. The fault in your assessment is that you consider yourself to > be > > something separate from your body which you are not. You consider > yourself > > to be an individual in a body and no matter what your personality and > > station you consider it to be yours.The truth is you are one identity and > I > > am another , the only difference between us is that of identity. If your > > past life and achievements were different it would not be you but that > > other. > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 PM, DarkwaterBlight > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > While I agree that personality has much to do with how we handle > > > circumstances; it is not unusual for people to adopt personality > > > traits seen in others. This is helpful in overcoming adverse > > > circumstances that one might, otherwise, be inequiped to handle. I- > > > dentity, however, might have little or nothing to do with either of > > > these as it can be as fluid as anyone wishes or or is inclined to > > > portray. What of those with multiple personality disorders? Would not > > > you say that there are multiple identities at work or should they be > > > identified as; by their circumstances ie; having a disorder? Very > > > questionable thesis RP! I agree with rigsy that more factors should be > > > taken into consideration. > > > > > On Dec 16, 9:24 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You still would have been yourself- with a different personality and > > > > altered circumstances. You are not "fixed" like a statue of marble. > > > > Humans are highly adaptable. Chance and luck have a huge impact on > > > > lives and it is impossible to avoid challenges and surprises. Often > > > > our strengths are hidden until provoked or summoned. Plus, you fail > to > > > > mention the enormous impact parents have on their children and there > > > > are other "biggies" like war, poverty, intelligence, physical > > > > attributes, religious beliefs or not, etc.// A friend braved the snow > > > > Monday and came for lunch- really to show me the photo of a college > > > > reunion last autumn that I did not attend- amazing to hear all the > > > > dramas and traumas! :-) We have been friends since age 10 and > > > > congratulated ourselves on all the good times- the fun times- the > 50's > > > > were a great decade, depending. Anyway, I finally filled in the > blanks > > > > of myself from 0 to 10 before we met and she told me to "write a > > > > book"!!! > > > > > > On Dec 15, 1:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am what my identity is. If my personality and circumstances had > been > > > > > different , it would have been a different identity and that would > have > > > been > > > > > someone else and not I.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
