Switch to "object permanence" and you don't need to make that distinction.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:55 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Smile DW congratulations...you have that right we are souls..it is the > body that is temporary.. > Allan > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:46 PM, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> I will give you this much; I am me and no one else; No one else is me >> nor can be. You have me mistaken for one who believes that we have >> souls! I, on the contrary, believe we ARE souls. >> >> On Dec 16, 11:07 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > A clone would be exactly like me but may differ in personality traits >> and >> > circumstances according to his upbringing. Due to some environmental >> factors >> > I might be a failure but he may be a success and as such his identity >> would >> > be completely different. If the same environment had been given to me I >> > would have been vastly different from what I am today and thus I would >> not >> > be what I am. I relate to my identity and what I am I would not be if >> the >> > identity had been different. There is essentially no difference between >> you >> > and me except that of identity and we cannot be said to be the same >> > individual. The fault in your assessment is that you consider yourself >> to be >> > something separate from your body which you are not. You consider >> yourself >> > to be an individual in a body and no matter what your personality and >> > station you consider it to be yours.The truth is you are one identity >> and I >> > am another , the only difference between us is that of identity. If your >> > past life and achievements were different it would not be you but that >> > other. >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 PM, DarkwaterBlight >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > While I agree that personality has much to do with how we handle >> > > circumstances; it is not unusual for people to adopt personality >> > > traits seen in others. This is helpful in overcoming adverse >> > > circumstances that one might, otherwise, be inequiped to handle. I- >> > > dentity, however, might have little or nothing to do with either of >> > > these as it can be as fluid as anyone wishes or or is inclined to >> > > portray. What of those with multiple personality disorders? Would not >> > > you say that there are multiple identities at work or should they be >> > > identified as; by their circumstances ie; having a disorder? Very >> > > questionable thesis RP! I agree with rigsy that more factors should be >> > > taken into consideration. >> > >> > > On Dec 16, 9:24 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > You still would have been yourself- with a different personality and >> > > > altered circumstances. You are not "fixed" like a statue of marble. >> > > > Humans are highly adaptable. Chance and luck have a huge impact on >> > > > lives and it is impossible to avoid challenges and surprises. Often >> > > > our strengths are hidden until provoked or summoned. Plus, you fail >> to >> > > > mention the enormous impact parents have on their children and there >> > > > are other "biggies" like war, poverty, intelligence, physical >> > > > attributes, religious beliefs or not, etc.// A friend braved the >> snow >> > > > Monday and came for lunch- really to show me the photo of a college >> > > > reunion last autumn that I did not attend- amazing to hear all the >> > > > dramas and traumas! :-) We have been friends since age 10 and >> > > > congratulated ourselves on all the good times- the fun times- the >> 50's >> > > > were a great decade, depending. Anyway, I finally filled in the >> blanks >> > > > of myself from 0 to 10 before we met and she told me to "write a >> > > > book"!!! >> > >> > > > On Dec 15, 1:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > I am what my identity is. If my personality and circumstances had >> been >> > > > > different , it would have been a different identity and that would >> have >> > > been >> > > > > someone else and not I.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > >
