Good observation! But even a rock erodes over the years. Same object but different...
On Dec 17, 4:21 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Switch to "object permanence" and you don't need to make that distinction. > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:55 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Smile DW congratulations...you have that right we are souls..it is the > > body that is temporary.. > > Allan > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:46 PM, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > >> I will give you this much; I am me and no one else; No one else is me > >> nor can be. You have me mistaken for one who believes that we have > >> souls! I, on the contrary, believe we ARE souls. > > >> On Dec 16, 11:07 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > A clone would be exactly like me but may differ in personality traits > >> and > >> > circumstances according to his upbringing. Due to some environmental > >> factors > >> > I might be a failure but he may be a success and as such his identity > >> would > >> > be completely different. If the same environment had been given to me I > >> > would have been vastly different from what I am today and thus I would > >> not > >> > be what I am. I relate to my identity and what I am I would not be if > >> the > >> > identity had been different. There is essentially no difference between > >> you > >> > and me except that of identity and we cannot be said to be the same > >> > individual. The fault in your assessment is that you consider yourself > >> to be > >> > something separate from your body which you are not. You consider > >> yourself > >> > to be an individual in a body and no matter what your personality and > >> > station you consider it to be yours.The truth is you are one identity > >> and I > >> > am another , the only difference between us is that of identity. If your > >> > past life and achievements were different it would not be you but that > >> > other. > > >> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 PM, DarkwaterBlight > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> > > While I agree that personality has much to do with how we handle > >> > > circumstances; it is not unusual for people to adopt personality > >> > > traits seen in others. This is helpful in overcoming adverse > >> > > circumstances that one might, otherwise, be inequiped to handle. I- > >> > > dentity, however, might have little or nothing to do with either of > >> > > these as it can be as fluid as anyone wishes or or is inclined to > >> > > portray. What of those with multiple personality disorders? Would not > >> > > you say that there are multiple identities at work or should they be > >> > > identified as; by their circumstances ie; having a disorder? Very > >> > > questionable thesis RP! I agree with rigsy that more factors should be > >> > > taken into consideration. > > >> > > On Dec 16, 9:24 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > You still would have been yourself- with a different personality and > >> > > > altered circumstances. You are not "fixed" like a statue of marble. > >> > > > Humans are highly adaptable. Chance and luck have a huge impact on > >> > > > lives and it is impossible to avoid challenges and surprises. Often > >> > > > our strengths are hidden until provoked or summoned. Plus, you fail > >> to > >> > > > mention the enormous impact parents have on their children and there > >> > > > are other "biggies" like war, poverty, intelligence, physical > >> > > > attributes, religious beliefs or not, etc.// A friend braved the > >> snow > >> > > > Monday and came for lunch- really to show me the photo of a college > >> > > > reunion last autumn that I did not attend- amazing to hear all the > >> > > > dramas and traumas! :-) We have been friends since age 10 and > >> > > > congratulated ourselves on all the good times- the fun times- the > >> 50's > >> > > > were a great decade, depending. Anyway, I finally filled in the > >> blanks > >> > > > of myself from 0 to 10 before we met and she told me to "write a > >> > > > book"!!! > > >> > > > On Dec 15, 1:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > I am what my identity is. If my personality and circumstances had > >> been > >> > > > > different , it would have been a different identity and that would > >> have > >> > > been > >> > > > > someone else and not I.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
