On Mar 17, 3:14 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I doubt "punishment" was in the dinosaur "vocabulary" but we have no
> idea how they viewed and coped with natural disasters, do we? We have
> no idea how early mankind dealt with disasters except to study the
> apes and chimps, I guess.
>
> "Where Was God" by William Safire was in last Sunday's NYTimes then
> removed and so was any link as far as I could tell by Monday when I
> thought to print it out. I finally found it through Google but the
> link looks goofy so you are on your own. :-) He wrote this op-ed in
> 2005 after the Indian Ocean tsunami and based his response on the Book
> of Job re the questioning of faith in the midst of a natural disaster
> and untold suffering. It tracks to humans being responsible to lessen
> human suffering and injustice.
>
> The world is so depressing. Please do not try to cheer me up. Thank
> you.
>

LOL!!  If I'm correct and "God is One" and we are all extensions of
that One, then God suffers in every tradgedy, too.  This is why I
sometimes refer to God as "a glutton for experience", as God, being
all, experiences all aspects of every act.  In a murder, for example,
God is both murderer and victim.  God gets to experience all aspects
simply because, in reality, there is no 'other'.

> On Mar 16, 7:26 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Mar 16, 6:47 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Of course are not a punishment but rather a natural planetary force that
> > > though it is going to happen is not preplanned nor can it be said that it 
> > > is
> > > in punishment..  those that say that I wonder about their knowledge of 
> > > right
> > > and wrong. . but there are some people that you will never be able to
> > > explain anything because they know it all and their minds are closed.
> > > Allan
>
> > It can't REALLY be a punishment, as we know earthquakes happened long
> > before humans.  I doubt very seriously if the dinosaurs viewed
> > earthquakes as punishments.
>
> > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > "Life" is also a cereal.
>
> > > > I recently tried to convince someone that natural disasters were not a
> > > > punishment from her God for those who do not believe. It didn't go too 
> > > > well
> > > > and turned into an angry lecture on my part. Basically substitute
> > > > "scripture" for "life" in a crash course of anthropology and 
> > > > spirituality,
> > > > that's what it was. Why do I feel guilty?.. If it shakes her faith and 
> > > > hope
> > > > I'll be damned, if she reflects and understands the larger reality it 
> > > > will
> > > > strengthen. Sometimes to what seems at first an academic matter, with
> > > > empathy and understanding, we find a great responsibility in the 
> > > > actions we
> > > > take.
>
> > > > Risk. Isn't there a song about life being a poker game?
>
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> > >   )
> > > I_D Allan
>
> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
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