"LOL!! If I'm correct and "God is One" and we are all extensions of that One, then God suffers in every tradgedy, too. This is why I sometimes refer to God as "a glutton for experience", as God, being all, experiences all aspects of every act. In a murder, for example, God is both murderer and victim. God gets to experience all aspects simply because, in reality, there is no 'other'."- Pat
Allan, How, then, could one be seperated from God? "God is actually very fascinating being. Within his being the entire contained.. As I see it the object is to be with our creator, as Confucius said To be in the presence of your creator is to be in heaven."- Allan Is it your understanding that, though within his being the entire is contained, that somehow God might seperate Self from Self and be absent from One's self? :P On Mar 18, 9:49 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mar 17, 3:14 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt "punishment" was in the dinosaur "vocabulary" but we have no > > idea how they viewed and coped with natural disasters, do we? We have > > no idea how early mankind dealt with disasters except to study the > > apes and chimps, I guess. > > > "Where Was God" by William Safire was in last Sunday's NYTimes then > > removed and so was any link as far as I could tell by Monday when I > > thought to print it out. I finally found it through Google but the > > link looks goofy so you are on your own. :-) He wrote this op-ed in > > 2005 after the Indian Ocean tsunami and based his response on the Book > > of Job re the questioning of faith in the midst of a natural disaster > > and untold suffering. It tracks to humans being responsible to lessen > > human suffering and injustice. > > > The world is so depressing. Please do not try to cheer me up. Thank > > you. > > LOL!! If I'm correct and "God is One" and we are all extensions of > that One, then God suffers in every tradgedy, too. This is why I > sometimes refer to God as "a glutton for experience", as God, being > all, experiences all aspects of every act. In a murder, for example, > God is both murderer and victim. God gets to experience all aspects > simply because, in reality, there is no 'other'. > > > > > On Mar 16, 7:26 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Mar 16, 6:47 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Of course are not a punishment but rather a natural planetary force that > > > > though it is going to happen is not preplanned nor can it be said that > > > > it is > > > > in punishment.. those that say that I wonder about their knowledge of > > > > right > > > > and wrong. . but there are some people that you will never be able to > > > > explain anything because they know it all and their minds are closed. > > > > Allan > > > > It can't REALLY be a punishment, as we know earthquakes happened long > > > before humans. I doubt very seriously if the dinosaurs viewed > > > earthquakes as punishments. > > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "Life" is also a cereal. > > > > > > I recently tried to convince someone that natural disasters were not a > > > > > punishment from her God for those who do not believe. It didn't go > > > > > too well > > > > > and turned into an angry lecture on my part. Basically substitute > > > > > "scripture" for "life" in a crash course of anthropology and > > > > > spirituality, > > > > > that's what it was. Why do I feel guilty?.. If it shakes her faith > > > > > and hope > > > > > I'll be damned, if she reflects and understands the larger reality it > > > > > will > > > > > strengthen. Sometimes to what seems at first an academic matter, with > > > > > empathy and understanding, we find a great responsibility in the > > > > > actions we > > > > > take. > > > > > > Risk. Isn't there a song about life being a poker game? > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
