It depends on the group. Was in Al-Anon also and believe those mates are just as screwed up as the user. One is dealing with a system that affects family, business, etc. and is not an instant cure as there are usually problems galore left in the wake. There is no "instant cure"! :-) Plus- there are those you must leave behind- some people cannot handle sober happiness. :-)
On Mar 29, 7:55 am, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > wasnt trying to bash u , i just got out 3 month volentary inpatent > rehab , still love smoken-tripping though , acceptance can be good > but it can be bad - look at capitalism disscussion - 12 step is good > for all people > > > > allan deheretic wrote: > > 31 years of sobriety is going to have an influence. I use it as a reference > > point,, but it is not the basis of my beliefs it is a reference point for > > trying to look at things clearly. It is an excellent set of guidelines. > > Allan > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, the taoist shaman > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > allin i thought your thoughts sounded like that of an AA , all in all > > > good program , you told me to be watchfull of influence by thoughs > > > with an agenda i tell u the same > > > > allan deheretic wrote: > > > > Very good ideas Ash Living a health life style is a good way to live. > > > > > If you are having problems sorting things out a good set of guidelines > > > > is > > > > the 12 steps of AA.. they are great for sorting anything out.. I know I > > > > have been sober now for over 31 years.. (writing that it is unbelievable > > > to > > > > me.. and I have done it. thanks to a whole lot of people who put up my > > > shit > > > > and helped me sort it out.) > > > > Rigs ideas are good. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Good idea Rigsy, speaking of diet I noticed caffeine has had a large > > > impact > > > > > on things (esp. coffee). So today I'll cut the coffee at lunch and > > > > > from > > > > > there just green tea and chocolate. :p > > > > > > You know if I wasn't so damned hardheaded things would be going > > > > > better. > > > > > Exercise, eat healthy, stop smoking so much, more family time, etc. > > > Thanks > > > > > all for the advices! :) > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
