There is also the "dry drunk", Allan. The use discontinues but the personality and soul do not change.
On Mar 31, 1:52 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are going to do it and especially putting your self through the > process,, the get maximum benefit Bryan All I can say is follow the > rules, starting with don't drink or drug. otherwise you will be > throwing your money away. > Allan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:35 PM, the taoist shaman <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > just because i put my self through drug re hab doesnt make me > > alcoholic, i can have a few then stop when i want , not EVERYONE has > > to be sober to be happy. but for some it does seem that way > > > sobriety is a state of mind not blood > > > rigsy03 wrote: > > > It depends on the group. Was in Al-Anon also and believe those mates > > > are just as screwed up as the user. One is dealing with a system that > > > affects family, business, etc. and is not an instant cure as there are > > > usually problems galore left in the wake. There is no "instant > > > cure"! :-) Plus- there are those you must leave behind- some people > > > cannot handle sober happiness. :-) > > > > On Mar 29, 7:55 am, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > wasnt trying to bash u , i just got out 3 month volentary inpatent > > > > rehab , still love smoken-tripping though , acceptance can be good > > > > but it can be bad - look at capitalism disscussion - 12 step is good > > > > for all people > > > > > allan deheretic wrote: > > > > > 31 years of sobriety is going to have an influence. I use it as a > > reference > > > > > point,, but it is not the basis of my beliefs it is a reference point > > for > > > > > trying to look at things clearly. It is an excellent set of > > guidelines. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, the taoist shaman < > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > allin i thought your thoughts sounded like that of an AA , all in > > all > > > > > > good program , you told me to be watchfull of influence by thoughs > > > > > > with an agenda i tell u the same > > > > > > > allan deheretic wrote: > > > > > > > Very good ideas Ash Living a health life style is a good way to > > live. > > > > > > > > If you are having problems sorting things out a good set of > > guidelines is > > > > > > > the 12 steps of AA.. they are great for sorting anything out.. I > > know I > > > > > > > have been sober now for over 31 years.. (writing that it is > > unbelievable > > > > > > to > > > > > > > me.. and I have done it. thanks to a whole lot of people who put > > up my > > > > > > shit > > > > > > > and helped me sort it out.) > > > > > > > Rigs ideas are good. > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ash <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good idea Rigsy, speaking of diet I noticed caffeine has had a > > large > > > > > > impact > > > > > > > > on things (esp. coffee). So today I'll cut the coffee at lunch > > and from > > > > > > > > there just green tea and chocolate. :p > > > > > > > > > You know if I wasn't so damned hardheaded things would be going > > better. > > > > > > > > Exercise, eat healthy, stop smoking so much, more family time, > > etc. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > all for the advices! :) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
