In my view , creation was not a conscious act of God , but rather the universe emanated from the unconscious mind of God. He doesn't look at us consciously , doesn't connect results with actions , rather everything is happening according to laws which exist in His unconscious mind. I don't think that any scripture can really lay down definitions of good and bad with His authority , rather thinkers among us can lay down rules which appear logical to them and accepted by us as such. I don't believe in an after-life and consider this life itself to be a spiritual experience.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:55 AM, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey Chuck, >> >> I guess it depends on what you belive God is. >> >> If you believe that God is the creator then everything has Gods hand >> in it, if you further belive that God is omipitant then God you are >> exactly the way that God has designed you to be. > > I believe that god/goddess/gods etc. are icons. They are concepts that help > people cope with their own frailties and inadequacies. Whether it be to > blame bad things on, attribute good things to, or to provide us a path to > continue our existence beyond the grave. > >> >> If you are a gardner, and you splice together two differant plants to >> gain a desird result, the plant does have a life of it's own, but >> works in the way you have designd it to. So in a real way you are the >> manipulator of that plants life, your hand is in all that it does, as >> you have designed it. > > Here I would say that the original design was altered. A much easier task > than the original design. > > As I may have mentioned in a previous post, I readily accept the possibility > that some entity may have created this universe. And, I think that anything > with that kind of power would probably appear to be omniscient to us. > However, I also believe that it is VERY unlikely that any entity that could > have created this reality would bare even the slightest resemblance to > anything we describe as a god. > > The reasoning for that seems fairly straightforward to me: > > Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame. I mean come > on. You want me to kill a goat, sacrifice a virgin, or set fire to a wax > stick in your honor. REALLY??? And you're going to send me to hell for > eternity because I thought the neighbor's wife was a hot piece of tail? > Jeesh. As gods go you suck dude. > > Another thing. You would think that god would find a better way of > correcting bad behavior than to fry people for an eternity. Even we lowly > humans know that setting someone on fire is not the best way to convince 'em > to mend their ways. > > Lastly but not finally. If god created this reality then at a minimum he > created one and possibly infinitely more universes. In this one there are an > estimated 300 sextillion stars. That's 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars > if you're looking for precision. You would think that with all that stuff > floating around out there that he/she/it would have better things to do than > make sure that little johnnies prayers are answered with a brand new bike on > his birthday. > > My guess is that any entity capable of creating all of this would see us as > a minor infestation of germs at best. > >> On Apr 20, 5:40 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Whatever work I do and the effort that I make , is it God doing it ? >> > > No , I do it all , but It is God who gives me the strength to do it. >> > > Without His strength even the resolve to do anything wouldn't come to >> > > my mind. >> > >> > Now when you say that God is giving you strength can you be more >> > specific? >> > Is he providing your mitochondria with more ADP or is he upping your >> > serotonin or dopamine levels to give you a greater feeling of reward for >> > your accomplishments? >> > >> > And, if so, can you tell me exactly how he does that? I mean, is he >> > causing >> > re-uptake inhibition or is he actually producing a greater volume of >> > chemical messengers at the synapse? >> > >> > I guess if it's psychological strength it would have to be the latter. >> > If it >> > were greater physical strength then you'd probably be able to lift cars >> > off >> > the ground. >
