That is interseting Molly. As somebody who has taken LSD before, I can say that it certianly did open doors in my own perception that I didn't know existed until that moment. Whether these perceptions where real or not is not really the issue, but it did change my life in a very real way.
On May 24, 11:46 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > I think you are on to something, Lee. Our perceived capacity > (capability) in the moment defines our limitation. And yet, by > nature, we are limitless. To perceive this removes the limits and > changes our capabilities, leading us to realization... > > We may very well be born without matrix, and left with the charge of > realizing our own limitless nature (freedom) as we seek society to > live. > > Unlike RP, I think this realization includes the body, but not in any > dualistic way. We live and die simultaneously in each moment. What > we perceive, or "see" of it seems different for each of us. Each true > relative to our own capacities. > > On May 23, 8:01 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I think perception is route to realisation perhaps. > > > Perception first, followed by evidance that such perceptions are valid > > (if only subjectily in some cases) leading to realisations. > > > As to the Blake quote. > > > My and my oldest son where having a convo last night, I can't really > > recall what it was about, but I asked him if he thought it at all > > possible that a 'thing' can act outside of it's 'nature'. > > > Perhaps it is the nature of man to have blinkered perceptions. Like > > the fly dog visualy percives in black an white, perhaps human kind > > simply cannot percive any other realms than it is capable of? > > > On May 21, 12:12 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I see your point, a good one too. At what point does perception > > > become realization. But I would say that there is much more to > > > perception than sensory perception. As William Blake pointed out: "If > > > the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man > > > as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all > > > things through narrow chinks of his cavern."[ > > > > On May 19, 7:19 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hey Molly, > > > > > Is such a thing truely a perception or a realisation? > > > > > I used to live with a bloke who is colour blind, we rented our place > > > > from two lesbians, and so his perception of the colour of his bedroom > > > > was grey. The bedroom was to my eyes coloured pink, but he knows that > > > > he is colour blind and although not sure of what colour I saw (until > > > > he asked me) he realised that his perception was not correct. > > > > > So we can have a realiastion that our perceptions may not be correct. > > > > > On May 19, 12:09 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world > > > > > as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from > > > > > self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it > > > > > true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a > > > > > dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view, > > > > > all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and > > > > > experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual > > > > > perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a > > > > > beginning or end. > > > > > > On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the > > > > > > observed > > > > > > , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality > > > > > > there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , > > > > > > remains > > > > > > what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God > > > > > > ,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.- > > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
