There are a number of good discussions available free. I like one on quantum approaches - http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-consciousness/ - though I dislike duality, preferring process notions like Whitehead - the best we can do is look at events and their network.
On May 19, 5:30 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Bad-mouthing Descartes has been done to a 'T' by Mark Steel Lee - well > worth a watch. There is now consensus that most of our 'reasoning' is > not conscious. Depression may turn out to be down to gut bacteria. > All humans share only one of three 'gut systems' (amazing, given the > potential for variety). We may be more 'at one' than we know! When > we reason (otherwise act) with others we are not 'individual'. > Descartes doesn't get much past 'there are thoughts' - or so my > bacteria tell me! Concepts may be in the way of knowing, for all we > know. I do think we usefully operate in a duel manner - thinking > about, say, why concepts may be useful or not. Such is how the > philosophy of concepts works. Yet the state we need to achieve may be > one of no concepts. I don't do Tibetan, as you know, and am building > a space Ark in the shed! > I put the Descartes paste in because I'm inclined to believe argument > on this is like claiming a woman is a witch because she ate a dog. On > production of the dog alive, she is declared a witch on the grounds > the dog survived being eaten by her. > > On May 19, 3:04 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of things. The > > world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world changes > > over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God remains the > > same always and is unborn , primeaval and indestructible--the same > > cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am the One , > > but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be the " One " > > when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our > > consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from > > matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all > > that is immortal. > > > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world > > > as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from > > > self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it > > > true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a > > > dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view, > > > all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and > > > experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual > > > perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a > > > beginning or end. > > > > On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed > > >> , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality > > >> there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , remains > > >> what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God > > >> ,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.
