By coincidence this popped up this evening and I thought it might
interest you. On NPR- "Fresh Air". "Bottled Lightning- Superbatteries,
Electric Cars and the New Lithium Economy" by Seth Fletcher

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/08/136856749/leading-the-charge-to-make-better-electric-cars

There's a selection from the book which was electrifying! :-)

On Jun 8, 3:02 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> LOL  Rigsy lithium like the economy is highly unstable.
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:54 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Ease of trade and former agreement in its value among trading
> > partners. Are there any countries still on the gold or silver
> > standard?
>
> > Maybe we are in the Middle East and Northern Africa for its sand? Rare
> > earth metals are desired from central Asia. Maybe lithium will be the
> > new gold- hard to rhyme, however. :-)
>
> > On Jun 7, 7:45 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Jun 6, 6:33 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > While the Chinese government may still retain some power, overall the
> > > > issue as it is around the globe is corporations. The SOEs (State Owned
> > > > Enterprises) in China are on the decline and relatively few remain.
> > > > These SOEs are being replaced by ‘Listed’ (stock mark) ones.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-owned_corporation#People.27s_...
>
> > > > A few Chinese corporations are even setting up shop in the USA because
> > > > about all expenses (except wages) are much less here these days.
> >http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/06/news/international/china_america_full...
>
> > > > Of course, on the other hand, US (in name at least) corporations have
> > > > been operating in China for decades and the list is quite substantial.
> >http://www.jiesworld.com/international_corporations_in_china.htm
>
> > > > What I see is that multinationals are the real global power with few
> > > > exceptions.
>
> > > > As a side issue, this isn’t great news for our planet and its
> > > > environmental concerns.
>
> > > > As to ‘owning the USA’, the majority of Chinese economists would
> > > > rather own gold.
> >http://www.chinastakes.com/2009/3/survey-over-two-thirds-of-chinese-e...
>
> > > Which itself is amazing.  Why do humans rate gold so much?  Shiny,
> > > malleable, metal.  Is it purely the colour?  Silicon is pretty in its
> > > raw form and has, in CPUs, given us far more than gold has.
>
> > > > On Jun 6, 6:05 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jun 6, 12:41 pm, "[email protected]" <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Sweet can't wait to read it mate.
>
> > > > > The Chinese aren't going to like it though.  I've named them as Magog
> > > > > (the big question is: Who is Gog?).  I strongly suspect that it will
> > > > > be banned in China because of that; however, in my specific advice to
> > > > > China, I state much more (and I do praise them in certain areas, too)
> > > > > and I know that the leadership will read it and THEY are the intended
> > > > > audience (of the advice!), so their ban won't affect that aspect in
> > > > > any way.  I warn them that, if they continue to buy the U.S. treasury
> > > > > (by buying the Treasury Notes and Bills as they are doing), that they
> > > > > are buying a huge responsibility and have reminded them that, when
> > > > > America fights, it has plenty of history to demonstrate it can fight
> > > > > dirty: Guerilla warfare against the British rank and file, handing
> > out
> > > > > blankets infected with smallpox to Native Americans and being the
> > only
> > > > > company to ever use nuclear weapons, when they KNEW no one could
> > > > > retaliate in kind are the examples I laid out.  America may not be
> > > > > happy with that either, but it's all history.  I want China to know
> > > > > that owning America's pocket might not be as advantageous as they may
> > > > > think.  And, of course, I remind them that, whilst their van is
> > > > > strong, there rear is weak and then outline the way to defeat China
> > in
> > > > > battle.  Of course it's nasty (biological!) but I want China to
> > > > > realise that they are not invulnerable and that they should not act
> > on
> > > > > the premiss that they are invincible.  if they are going to own
> > > > > America, then they need to act wisely and with due consideration or
> > > > > face an unruly bunch who are armed to the teeth, which is not
> > > > > something I want to see in the future (that kind of conflagration,
> > > > > that is).
>
> > > > > > On Jun 6, 10:14 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 1, 1:08 pm, "[email protected]" <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > It is finished then Pat?
>
> > > > > > > Not quite.  I have to finish the 'Conclusion' section and finish
> > off
> > > > > > > an appendix that offers advice to specific countries and I'd like
> > to
> > > > > > > add a glossary.  Once those are done, I'll start re-reading it
> > from
> > > > > > > the top and add or modify as I go.  When that's finished, repeat
> > that
> > > > > > > step and THEN it should be done.  2-3 months max!!!  First person
> > I
> > > > > > > ran into who did publishing of any kind already has a draft copy
> > for
> > > > > > > reading and is practically begging me to let him publish it.
> >  So...all
> > > > > > > is going very well indeed.  Cheers!!
>
> > > > > > > > On May 31, 1:53 pm, Pat <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 18, 11:09 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > It get harder than even the following standard philosphy
> > Lee:
> > > > > > > > > > Since a Cartesian substance is a thing that is
> > ontologically
> > > > > > > > > > independent (Principles I:51–52), a complete thing is an
> > ontologically
> > > > > > > > > > independent thing. When we clearly and distinctly perceive
> > mind and
> > > > > > > > > > body to be complete, we know that they are substances. When
> > we still
> > > > > > > > > > clearly and distinctly perceive them to be substances after
> > clearly
> > > > > > > > > > and distinctly perceiving them apart from each other, we
> > know that
> > > > > > > > > > they are not the same substance under different
> > descriptions. On this
> > > > > > > > > > view, Descartes holds that mind and body are ontologically
> > independent
> > > > > > > > > > substances, and their distinctness consists in their
> > ability to
> > > > > > > > > > continue to exist even after God separates them.[36]
>
> > > > > > > > > As you might remember, in my theory, thre is only energy.
> >  Yet that
> > > > > > > > > energy works on three different levels: the physical,
> > consciousness
> > > > > > > > > and the purely abstract.  This represents three ways of
> > energy
> > > > > > > > > expressing itself as a different Cartesian 'substance', even
> > though,
> > > > > > > > > in fact, it is all the same substance.  A simple half-twist
> > and a turn
> > > > > > > > > around a dimensional corner and the underlying string can
> > work in
> > > > > > > > > three ways at once.  Descartes and I agree on most things and
> > this is
> > > > > > > > > another, although I have the advantage of all the science
> > after Rene!!
>
> > > > > > > > > > An alternative interpretation of Descartes on the real
> > distinction
> > > > > > > > > > between mind and body reads the distinction as consisting
> > in the
> > > > > > > > > > ontological independence of mind and body, but not in their
> > > > > > > > > > separability.[37] Descartes holds that a sufficient
> > condition for
> > > > > > > > > > establishing a real distinction between two things is
> > clearly and
> > > > > > > > > > distinctly perceiving them to be non-identical substances
> > (“Synopsis
> > > > > > > > > > of these following six Meditations,” AT 7:13, CSM 2:9;
> > Fourth Replies,
> > > > > > > > > > AT 7:221–223, CSM 2:156–58). If so, he holds that the
> > substantiality
> > > > > > > > > > of two non-identical substances does not consist in their
> > being
> > > > > > > > > > separable but is just an indication of their
> > separability.[38] On this
> > > > > > > > > > view, mind and body are separable for Descartes; it's just
> > that their
> > > > > > > > > > separability is a consequence of the (different) fact that
> > they are
> > > > > > > > > > really distinct.[39]
>
> > > > > > > > > > A third reading of the Cartesian real distinction stresses
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > difficulty in making room for unactualized possibilities in
> > Descartes'
> > > > > > > > > > system. The reading also highlights that Descartes holds
> > that our
> > > > > > > > > > clear and distinct perceptions are veridical but says (in
> > his proof of
> > > > > > > > > > real distinction) that God can bring about whatever we
> > clearly and
> > > > > > > > > > distinctly perceive. Descartes is clear in other texts that
> > the reason
> > > > > > > > > > why he mentions God's power in the proof of real
> > distinction is to
> > > > > > > > > > remind us that no matter how unlikely we think it is that
> > our
> > > > > > > > > > intimately united minds and bodies could also be really
> > distinct, God
> > > > > > > > > > has enough power to have made all of our clear and distinct
> > > > > > > > > > perceptions veridical.
>
> > > > > > > > > Yup and I can put the physics behind his assertion.  And,
> > will do so
> > > > > > > > > (have done so!!) in my book.  I do give Descartes a lot of
> > credit in
> > > > > > > > > my book with respect to picking up where he left off.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I'd rather swim in your sea mate!  Science gets like this
> > in its
> > > > > > > > > > conceptions.  It's seriously entertained that distance is a
> > complex
> > > > > > > > > > illusion.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 11:05 am, "[email protected]"
>
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Duality and non duality.  It's a hard one to get the head
> > around.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I belive that Ik on kar, that duality is indeed an
> > illusion, but it's
> > > > > > > > > > > a bit one way and a bit the other.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > If God has granted us free will, that is the freedom to
> > choose God or
> > > > > > > > > > > not, then that points towards non duality, but does it
> > really?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I see it like water.  The sea is the whole, the ik on
> > kar, but it is
> > > > > > > > > > > made up of individual drops.  We are both the individual
> > drops and the
>
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