I'd rather look like blintzes- filled with caviar or smoked salmon with a dollop of smetana...or sweetened pureed cottage cheese topped with fresh strawberries. Flapjacks, anyone?
Looks are an interesting aspect- male or female- but trace back to parents and are just a given. (I wondered why the children of Ted Williams froze his brain. My thought was that they should have frozen the brains of his mother and father!) On Jun 8, 10:34 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jun 8, 3:45 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Michael Boylan has a follow-up article in the NYTimes Opinion Section > > this morning- really a reply to the 300 comments he receirved. It got > > a little "spacey" for me but then, I haven't had breakfast yet. > > > If we are talking Human, the path might want to start in the womb. > > Does any human life- providing you think a human fetus will emerge as > > a human- have the right to exist? The first rights- beyond the > > biological- are granted by the parents, enlarged by education and > > society and determined, finally by the Individual. However, we have to > > examine what part religion or the ethics of place as well as the > > historical-political maturity of a physical location plays on the > > assumption of specific human rights. We also have to deal with the > > impact of Chance/Fortune on a life- wars, natural disasters, illness, > > etc. Does the guarantee remain fixed? > > > I feel like apple pancakes- YES! > > As long as you don't LOOK like apple pancakes, that's fine. It's the > relative flatness in relationship to the 'norm' of human appearance > that would worry me. > > > > > On Jun 8, 3:50 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Umm now that is a question. > > > > If I assume that I have right and the reality is that I have not taken > > > it or been granted it, is it a right at all? > > > > I think I would have to say no, so yes rights can be falsely assumed. > > > > On Jun 7, 7:04 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Or falsely assumed? > > > > > On Jun 6, 6:46 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I think you missed this bit Rigsy: > > > > > > 'If in reality God has grnated such rights then they would be > > > > > impossible for us to live without them, it is clear that we do though' > > > > > > Which is saying no God has not objectivly granted us rights. There is > > > > > no objective source for any rights, rights are either taken or > > > > > granted, that is all. > > > > > > Justice is decided upon by the people or the lawmakers. In both of > > > > > these cases the rights by which justice is decided are rights that are > > > > > taken or granted. > > > > > > I'll say it agian, there are no natural human rights, all rights are > > > > > taken or granted. > > > > > > On Jun 5, 7:15 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It might be grounded in our biology as a fetus will pull what it > > > > > > needs > > > > > > from the mother in order to develop and be born unless interrupted > > > > > > by > > > > > > Nature or laws. > > > > > > > And in wars, each side announces God's favor for their cause. So > > > > > > too, > > > > > > in political systems, though it is masked. > > > > > > > And do you really think laws are divinely motivated in various > > > > > > governments? How is justice dispensed? How are rights distributed? > > > > > > > On Jun 2, 6:27 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nope I have to disagree OM. Now I have read the piece I find > > > > > > > nowt to > > > > > > > make me change my mind. > > > > > > > > From what source do such rights stem? > > > > > > > > My stance is grounded in our history. All the rights we have now > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > bee faught for, that is they have been taken. Once taken > > > > > > > progresive > > > > > > > goveremtns have enshrined them in law and now they are granted. > > > > > > > > These laws, as all laws, can be changed. In which case the > > > > > > > granted > > > > > > > rights will have been resincinded and well not have them back > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > without 'taking' them back. > > > > > > > > There is no objective source from which such rights stem except > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > God. If in reality God has grnated such rights then they would be > > > > > > > impossible for us to live without them, it is clear that we do > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > On Jun 2, 12:11 pm, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just reading through it now. > > > > > > > > > I find I can't agree with this bit at all: > > > > > > > > > 'In contrast to these objections, I would contend that if all > > > > > > > > communities or nations on earth enjoy the same sort of autonomy > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > legitimates any action that they deem acceptable and can be > > > > > > > > sustained > > > > > > > > for a period of time, then the moral relativists win. There > > > > > > > > are no > > > > > > > > natural human rights, and the whole enterprise should be thrown > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > the gutter.' > > > > > > > > > I would ask why if it is shown that these natural human rights > > > > > > > > do not > > > > > > > > exist (which is indeed my stance) why the whole concept of them > > > > > > > > need > > > > > > > > to be thrown in the gutter? > > > > > > > > > On Jun 1, 7:19 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks rigsy! This is one of the best (read: accurate) > > > > > > > > > articles on the > > > > > > > > > subject I've read in a long time. I feel this philosopher has > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > 'right' as far as I can tell. > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 1, 6:37 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/are-there-natural-hum... > > > > > > > > > > > I started to read the comments which are lively but I need > > > > > > > > > > breakfast...- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
