Retirement is a new chapter not terribly different from the others in
adjusting to although graduation is grim. :-)

You can still learn to play- most music schools have older students.
Yes- the piano- but had flings with bongo drums, guitar, dulcimer and
I guess I was serious about singing well- jazz- but not enough to
become a performer. And dancing. Can't imagine a world without music.

On Jun 15, 11:57 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds to me like you have earned your wings :) Is it all it promises
> to be?
>
> Thank you! Yes, i'm on an isle but not Greek. I think you're more
> "seer" than you might think or might let on :)
>
> Well, nothing like a little motivation to a good cause, your son might
> say :). Music (playing) is another strand of learning that i was
> deprived of; actually, this may have been self inflicted, since the
> music master was also the designated holder of the school whip; didn't
> pay rewards to get too close :) Fortunately, my daughter plays piano
> and clarinet. Do you play?
>
> On Jun 15, 7:49 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've earned "retirement", believe me! :-)
>
> > Funny, I guessed you would be on some Greek isle- so I guess that's as
> > close as can be expected for an amateur seer. Have a great time!
>
> > Well, theoreticals need practical applications or they are just arcane
> > amusements. I suppose it helped though his teacher was a seductive
> > sort for 9th grade boys- and he had no choice- 8th graders were simply
> > divided up on the basis of some test. As another example, music must
> > be played.
>
> > On Jun 15, 3:56 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Lucky for some! :)
>
> > > Excellent point on the arts, thank you. I think the same.
>
> > > Yes, i agree; solving equations was always such good fun; when you
> > > solved them...:) Sounds like a great course your son did; is he
> > > finding it very useful? I'd imagine so.
>
> > > This vacation, i'll be in a near vegetative state on a sandy beach
> > > with the family somewhere on the mediterranean coast of Europe,
> > > burning up and dreaming of what it would be like to sail along the
> > > coast for half of the year with the essentials; great wine, fine
> > > cigars, a good book, and song :)
>
> > > On Jun 15, 4:25 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Everyday is a vacation! :-)
>
> > > > I am going to have some work done on the house so I plan to see that
> > > > through- went over the general plan today but I have the feeling it
> > > > will be a leisurely sort of "attack" as I know this young man. I need
> > > > his muscles and sweat.
>
> > > > Sometimes our reaction to the arts has nothing to do with the artist's
> > > > intent or character- we read into them what we desire.
>
> > > > As for math, I too have felt dazzled seeing three or four blackboards
> > > > with numbers approaching a grand army (once walking into the wrong
> > > > classroom). I did like geometry and early algebra but that was all
> > > > that was required at my highschool- it was fun to get a "solution" to
> > > > something concrete. But I think I have used those rudimentary skills
> > > > in a practical way running a home and with various interests so all
> > > > was not lost. My youngest son took an algebra course that was designed
> > > > to improve discussion and explanations for people in the sciences as
> > > > there is a need to translate theoreticals into mere language and
> > > > exchange information.
>
> > > > That is a nice memory of your father. We should all hope to retain our
> > > > smiles forever.
>
> > > > What are you doing this vacation?
>
> > > > On Jun 14, 4:03 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Quality memories :)
>
> > > > > I wasn't suggesting that you might have been making the comment
> > > > > regarding his moral compass, rigsy03; i did think the author of the
> > > > > quote was freely sharing though :)
>
> > > > > Yes, i agree; doesn't time just help to put things in context. Fond
> > > > > memories of my octogenarian father; his solution to our daily
> > > > > existential crises was the most accomodating smile you could
> > > > > imagine :)
>
> > > > > Are you planning a summer vacation this year?
>
> > > > > On Jun 14, 4:20 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The correct title of Raphael's Madonna painting is "Madonna of the
> > > > > > Chair" so perhaps it was included in the exhibit. And all these 
> > > > > > years
> > > > > > I dismissed the chair as a spindle! :-) It reminded me of my 
> > > > > > daughter
> > > > > > and her younger brother when they were young somehow and I liked the
> > > > > > old circular frame- dark teal with gold flourishes and borders. 
> > > > > > Well,
> > > > > > I've learned something new about it- so thank you. I believe the
> > > > > > painting resides in Florence.
>
> > > > > > Was I commenting on his moral compass? I didn't mean to but I liked
> > > > > > the quote- to be reminded of the Pagans.
>
> > > > > > Beyond discernment are some inevitable shifts. Children were a 
> > > > > > common
> > > > > > bond with some groups, I'm back to a few tried and true and we all
> > > > > > seem to savor a kind of relief from our busier pasts. I think it's
> > > > > > normal.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 13, 11:44 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Well, i was hoping to make the Holy See an offer it can't refuse 
> > > > > > > :)
>
> > > > > > > I was fortunate to see a collection of Raphael's works at the 
> > > > > > > National
> > > > > > > Gallery in London a few years back; his imagination is truly
> > > > > > > captivating. I can't really comment on his moral compass; i'm 
> > > > > > > just not
> > > > > > > qualified, i'm afraid :)
>
> > > > > > > Guess you're right, we cannot shut ourselves off from the world 
> > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > us; but i'm not sure we're obliged to take in more than we need or
> > > > > > > want to (most of the time). It's not so much a call to solipsism, 
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > a call to discernment.
>
> > > > > > > The "d's" sound like a great life balance to me :)
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 13, 12:12 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > And just how, pray tell, to you propose to wheedle that 
> > > > > > > > painting from
> > > > > > > > the Vatican? Besides, dear Paradox, it is a fresco! I also have 
> > > > > > > > a copy
> > > > > > > > of his "Madonna and Child" in my bedroom- sometimes she looks 
> > > > > > > > stern
> > > > > > > > and at other times, amused. A critic writes of Raphael- Taine: 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > "unique blessing of a twofold education which, after showing him
> > > > > > > > Christian innocence and purity, made him feel pagan joy and 
> > > > > > > > strength."
> > > > > > > > Amen.
>
> > > > > > > > No one has absolute freedom/liberty but there are degrees- 
> > > > > > > > relative to
> > > > > > > > the particulars of one's existence and one's desires. And there 
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > possible adaptations/solutions to culture clamps. One can go 
> > > > > > > > along to
> > > > > > > > being a recluse to committing suicide- quick or slow. We cannot 
> > > > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > > > being social animals, however- even a recluse needs groceries. 
> > > > > > > > :-)
>
> > > > > > > > Those were just the "d's"...
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 3:39 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Sounds like you have a serious living space indeed :) I'm 
> > > > > > > > > saving up
> > > > > > > > > for the original; i expect to have enough just about when i'm 
> > > > > > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > enough to apply :)
>
> > > > > > > > > Last i read Hume was for an undergrad political philosophy 
> > > > > > > > > module many
> > > > > > > > > lives ago; thanks for the reference; i'll make sure i read the
> > > > > > > > > "Dialogues...".
>
> > > > > > > > > I take your poiint about relative liberties, but wonder how 
> > > > > > > > > relative
> > > > > > > > > and free our choiuces if we're "allowed" them; maybe that's 
> > > > > > > > > the point
> > > > > > > > > you make about the "claustrophobia" of culture, and the trade 
> > > > > > > > > off of
> > > > > > > > > freedoms for security (in an social sense)?
>
> > > > > > > > > Hmm, dreams, delights, and duties...the 3 d's...so now we 
> > > > > > > > > know about
> > > > > > > > > the 03 in rigsy03 :)
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 1:06 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I have a copy of that painting in my living room. My living 
> > > > > > > > > > room is a
> > > > > > > > > > serious space. :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > Re Hume: I took a grad course in literary criticism- it 
> > > > > > > > > > really took
> > > > > > > > > > me- that included  some further handouts beyond the 
> > > > > > > > > > laborious
> > > > > > > > > > textbook= Hume's "Of the Standard of Taste" which I pulled 
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > basement files yesterday before I slogged through some 
> > > > > > > > > > passages of
> > > > > > > > > > Hume's "Dialogues on Natural Religion". The former still 
> > > > > > > > > > has sway and
> > > > > > > > > > sense- at least to me. I daresay we could live quite 
> > > > > > > > > > happily without
> > > > > > > > > > modern warfare, politics and culture which resembles a huge
> > > > > > > > > > contraption (I have forgotten the word for an evil, 
> > > > > > > > > > menacing machine)
> > > > > > > > > > but there are also great gifts of modern times so we have 
> > > > > > > > > > accepted the
> > > > > > > > > > trade-offs, it seems- at least we who have freedom and 
> > > > > > > > > > liberty are
> > > > > > > > > > allowed.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The juggling: dreams, delights, duties.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 12:31 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we're "just as deluded and misled" because we 
> > > > > > > > > > > have all these
> > > > > > > > > > > communication tools, rigsy03 (not that we could do 
> > > > > > > > > > > without them now);
> > > > > > > > > > > and maybe not enough time to "think" in the traditional 
> > > > > > > > > > > sense. It's
> > > > > > > > > > > not nostalgia, btw; i'm not old enough to remember the 
> > > > > > > > > > > School Of
> > > > > > > > > > > Athens :)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, i know exactly what you mean about home and family; 
> > > > > > > > > > > fundamentals
> > > > > > > > > > > first; long as we dont forget how to dream, eh? :)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 9:18 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I wish it were so, paradox. We have all these 
> > > > > > > > > > > > communication tools and
> > > > > > > > > > > > are just as deluded and misled as the days of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > herald and trumpet
> > > > > > > > > > > > in the square or the carrier pigeon.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think I had a subconscious goal that over-road (is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > this a word?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > other potentialities- a real home and children to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > raise. Of course,
> > > > > > > > > > > > there's more but that is another story..."Gone With the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Breeze"? I'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > think about
>
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