I've earned "retirement", believe me! :-) Funny, I guessed you would be on some Greek isle- so I guess that's as close as can be expected for an amateur seer. Have a great time!
Well, theoreticals need practical applications or they are just arcane amusements. I suppose it helped though his teacher was a seductive sort for 9th grade boys- and he had no choice- 8th graders were simply divided up on the basis of some test. As another example, music must be played. On Jun 15, 3:56 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > Lucky for some! :) > > Excellent point on the arts, thank you. I think the same. > > Yes, i agree; solving equations was always such good fun; when you > solved them...:) Sounds like a great course your son did; is he > finding it very useful? I'd imagine so. > > This vacation, i'll be in a near vegetative state on a sandy beach > with the family somewhere on the mediterranean coast of Europe, > burning up and dreaming of what it would be like to sail along the > coast for half of the year with the essentials; great wine, fine > cigars, a good book, and song :) > > On Jun 15, 4:25 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Everyday is a vacation! :-) > > > I am going to have some work done on the house so I plan to see that > > through- went over the general plan today but I have the feeling it > > will be a leisurely sort of "attack" as I know this young man. I need > > his muscles and sweat. > > > Sometimes our reaction to the arts has nothing to do with the artist's > > intent or character- we read into them what we desire. > > > As for math, I too have felt dazzled seeing three or four blackboards > > with numbers approaching a grand army (once walking into the wrong > > classroom). I did like geometry and early algebra but that was all > > that was required at my highschool- it was fun to get a "solution" to > > something concrete. But I think I have used those rudimentary skills > > in a practical way running a home and with various interests so all > > was not lost. My youngest son took an algebra course that was designed > > to improve discussion and explanations for people in the sciences as > > there is a need to translate theoreticals into mere language and > > exchange information. > > > That is a nice memory of your father. We should all hope to retain our > > smiles forever. > > > What are you doing this vacation? > > > On Jun 14, 4:03 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Quality memories :) > > > > I wasn't suggesting that you might have been making the comment > > > regarding his moral compass, rigsy03; i did think the author of the > > > quote was freely sharing though :) > > > > Yes, i agree; doesn't time just help to put things in context. Fond > > > memories of my octogenarian father; his solution to our daily > > > existential crises was the most accomodating smile you could > > > imagine :) > > > > Are you planning a summer vacation this year? > > > > On Jun 14, 4:20 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The correct title of Raphael's Madonna painting is "Madonna of the > > > > Chair" so perhaps it was included in the exhibit. And all these years > > > > I dismissed the chair as a spindle! :-) It reminded me of my daughter > > > > and her younger brother when they were young somehow and I liked the > > > > old circular frame- dark teal with gold flourishes and borders. Well, > > > > I've learned something new about it- so thank you. I believe the > > > > painting resides in Florence. > > > > > Was I commenting on his moral compass? I didn't mean to but I liked > > > > the quote- to be reminded of the Pagans. > > > > > Beyond discernment are some inevitable shifts. Children were a common > > > > bond with some groups, I'm back to a few tried and true and we all > > > > seem to savor a kind of relief from our busier pasts. I think it's > > > > normal. > > > > > On Jun 13, 11:44 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Well, i was hoping to make the Holy See an offer it can't refuse :) > > > > > > I was fortunate to see a collection of Raphael's works at the National > > > > > Gallery in London a few years back; his imagination is truly > > > > > captivating. I can't really comment on his moral compass; i'm just not > > > > > qualified, i'm afraid :) > > > > > > Guess you're right, we cannot shut ourselves off from the world around > > > > > us; but i'm not sure we're obliged to take in more than we need or > > > > > want to (most of the time). It's not so much a call to solipsism, more > > > > > a call to discernment. > > > > > > The "d's" sound like a great life balance to me :) > > > > > > On Jun 13, 12:12 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > And just how, pray tell, to you propose to wheedle that painting > > > > > > from > > > > > > the Vatican? Besides, dear Paradox, it is a fresco! I also have a > > > > > > copy > > > > > > of his "Madonna and Child" in my bedroom- sometimes she looks stern > > > > > > and at other times, amused. A critic writes of Raphael- Taine: the > > > > > > "unique blessing of a twofold education which, after showing him > > > > > > Christian innocence and purity, made him feel pagan joy and > > > > > > strength." > > > > > > Amen. > > > > > > > No one has absolute freedom/liberty but there are degrees- relative > > > > > > to > > > > > > the particulars of one's existence and one's desires. And there are > > > > > > possible adaptations/solutions to culture clamps. One can go along > > > > > > to > > > > > > being a recluse to committing suicide- quick or slow. We cannot > > > > > > avoid > > > > > > being social animals, however- even a recluse needs groceries. :-) > > > > > > > Those were just the "d's"... > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 3:39 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sounds like you have a serious living space indeed :) I'm saving > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > for the original; i expect to have enough just about when i'm wise > > > > > > > enough to apply :) > > > > > > > > Last i read Hume was for an undergrad political philosophy module > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > lives ago; thanks for the reference; i'll make sure i read the > > > > > > > "Dialogues...". > > > > > > > > I take your poiint about relative liberties, but wonder how > > > > > > > relative > > > > > > > and free our choiuces if we're "allowed" them; maybe that's the > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > you make about the "claustrophobia" of culture, and the trade off > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > freedoms for security (in an social sense)? > > > > > > > > Hmm, dreams, delights, and duties...the 3 d's...so now we know > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > the 03 in rigsy03 :) > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 1:06 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have a copy of that painting in my living room. My living > > > > > > > > room is a > > > > > > > > serious space. :-) > > > > > > > > > Re Hume: I took a grad course in literary criticism- it really > > > > > > > > took > > > > > > > > me- that included some further handouts beyond the laborious > > > > > > > > textbook= Hume's "Of the Standard of Taste" which I pulled from > > > > > > > > basement files yesterday before I slogged through some passages > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Hume's "Dialogues on Natural Religion". The former still has > > > > > > > > sway and > > > > > > > > sense- at least to me. I daresay we could live quite happily > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > modern warfare, politics and culture which resembles a huge > > > > > > > > contraption (I have forgotten the word for an evil, menacing > > > > > > > > machine) > > > > > > > > but there are also great gifts of modern times so we have > > > > > > > > accepted the > > > > > > > > trade-offs, it seems- at least we who have freedom and liberty > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > allowed. > > > > > > > > > The juggling: dreams, delights, duties. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 12:31 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we're "just as deluded and misled" because we have > > > > > > > > > all these > > > > > > > > > communication tools, rigsy03 (not that we could do without > > > > > > > > > them now); > > > > > > > > > and maybe not enough time to "think" in the traditional > > > > > > > > > sense. It's > > > > > > > > > not nostalgia, btw; i'm not old enough to remember the School > > > > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > Athens :) > > > > > > > > > > Yes, i know exactly what you mean about home and family; > > > > > > > > > fundamentals > > > > > > > > > first; long as we dont forget how to dream, eh? :) > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 9:18 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I wish it were so, paradox. We have all these communication > > > > > > > > > > tools and > > > > > > > > > > are just as deluded and misled as the days of the herald > > > > > > > > > > and trumpet > > > > > > > > > > in the square or the carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > I think I had a subconscious goal that over-road (is this a > > > > > > > > > > word?) > > > > > > > > > > other potentialities- a real home and children to raise. Of > > > > > > > > > > course, > > > > > > > > > > there's more but that is another story..."Gone With the > > > > > > > > > > Breeze"? I'll > > > > > > > > > > think about it tomorrow. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2:21 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dont do it....please? We have enough of them already :) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > A realist. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2:54 pm, paradox <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, what are your choices, rigsy03? Go on, share...:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2:59 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True. I sure wish I'd figure out what I want to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when I grow up! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 11:45 am, paradox <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may be on to something here, archytas. There > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is some evidence that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are "editors" of real time; we can never > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually "live" a moment; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you add photon travel time to neural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > processing time, to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > referential mapping, to consciousness, you get a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge great big gap in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > human "agency". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 5:07 pm, archytas <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I often find myself thinking about trance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > states and how we could spot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them. The classic for me is that we are merely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vehicles for our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machine-like genes something I find 'true' and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > highly unlikely until I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > switch the tv on. I believe both that we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tranced and that > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
