There are degrees of dangerous behavior, Allan, and sometimes it takes
a long while to understand it effects- for dangerous can sometimes be
manipulative or charming. Or remarks can build up over a period of
time until you realize there is little/nothing in common. Just because
one has been in mischief or troubles does not mean you have to
tolerate abuse. The point of growth and change is to expect a better
outcome. One can have compassion or empathy and still stay away from a
train-wreak.

On Jun 20, 7:03 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rigs I may point out a dangerous behavior and be willing to discuss it with
> them but it is still their choice as to how they respond ..  No I do not
> know the bluesy ballad.. As for changing their dangerous behavior ,, who the
> heck am I to know one dangerous behavior from another and who made me
> judge??  Lord knows I have my share of them.
> Allan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:40 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > A bad relationship changes me in a flash, Allan! :-) I have been
> > suffocated by super-acceptance a few times. There's a bluesy ballad-
> > "Don't Try to Change Me Now". Do you know it? Anyway, I do think one
> > would want to change a friend's dangerous behavior, don't you? Some
> > behaviors are just not acceptable though it may take a while to
> > understand that and one puts up with "stuff".
>
> > On Jun 20, 6:12 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Rigsy I would have a difficult time picturing some one changing you, part
> > a
> > > friend ship is accepting a person as they are without qualification to
> > > change..
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:09 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Then aren't you putting some kind of boundary/expectation on that
> > > > relationship? ( You may like me, but don't attempt to change me.) How
> > > > can you not qualify the relationship as change "happens". Between
> > > > females, a male can tip the relationship. Between male and female, sex
> > > > can turn to love or ruin the friendship. Sometimes, the hardest person
> > > > to be a friend to is oneself.
>
> > > > On Jun 20, 2:23 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I Thin there are many levels of friendship. Most of them I barely
> > know,
> > > > if
> > > > > at all a casual matter, and among these levels there is a very
> > special
> > > > one
> > > > > that accepts me as I am  but likes me any way without qualification
> > to
> > > > > change.
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:52 PM, pol.science kid <
> > [email protected]
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > a few days back i read some post somewhere about the lack of
> > > > > > literature on friendship in philosophy mainly...and how it has been
> > > > > > ignored and so on.... so it got me thinking about the whole
> > > > > > affair...Friendship.... i asked myself who my friends were...i am
> > very
> > > > > > casual in calling people my friends... in fact i realised i didnt
> > > > > > really pay much attention to it.... the word i mean... i wouldnt
> > know
> > > > > > who to call my best friend...or a close and intimate friend...
> > > > > > because..it happens so to the person  whom i would reveal my
> > dearest
> > > > > > thoughts would be a relative stranger..in fact i dont do it
> > > > > > much...share thoughts..personal ones...i do it here but... maybe
> > > > > > because of the anonymity it lends.... plus i tend to outgrow some
> > > > > > friends... i know it sounds horrible..i dont really do it on
> > > > > > purpose..outgrow would mean... gradually losing touch...after i
> > move
> > > > > > or something... i am sorry i dont want to make this some sort of
> > > > > > confession...but there are so many questions that confront and rack
> > my
> > > > > > brain sometimes....  is it later in life that one makes real
> > > > > > friends...i mean after youve left that peer space...school or
> > > > > > college...l in fact leave that...its not that significant... I once
> > > > > > decided that Friendship is a vague term altogether... there are
> > > > > > individual relationships...each having a different bearing... like
> > a
> > > > > > security personnel at your college gate... you get the point... I
> > know
> > > > > > this is a very vast topic.and i cant really analyse it right now
> > cos
> > > > > > this is a kind of spontaneous typing....so let me get to another
> > > > > > point.... like i mentioned above i seem careless of friends...but
> > yet
> > > > > > i sometimes complain of the loneliness... which can be
> > suffocating...
> > > > > > and yet i draw a line and withdraw if any relation touches on lines
> > of
> > > > > > very personal.... i think one regards personal what one considers
> > > > > > sacred... like ones thoughts..contemplations...   my question
> > is....is
> > > > > > it possible to bond with Another... in an aristotelian way...
> > because
> > > > > > i believe one can give ones life for someone but still be out of
> > > > > > something very impersonal.... are there some ...too self
> > > > > > absorbed...that it is almost impossible to connect on that level...
> > it
> > > > > > is strange i have such high demands for any 'connection'...and yet
> > i
> > > > > > am convinced there is no way i can really be with another according
> > to
> > > > > > my standard... this must be awfully confusing... but there are many
> > > > > > smart people here ho might  get the basic point.....
> > > > > > who is a friend?
> > > > > > can one really defeat the loneliness or is this loneliness only
> > > > > > immaturity on the souls part......
> > > > > > the question is now to you my 'friends'...convince me for something
> > if
> > > > > > you will.........
>
> > > > > --
> > > > >  (
> > > > >   )
> > > > > I_D Allan
>
> > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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> > > --
> > >  (
> > >   )
> > > I_D Allan
>
> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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> --
>  (
>   )
> I_D Allan
>
> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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