I think more by chance/luck/timing. I hate tea. :-) That's my other
"half"- French and Scot-Irish and a long (family) history of ardent
spirits and mischief. But I do remember the tastes very well and have
to take care not to glamorize booze for every now and then I
wonder...or am tempted...but am doing well and am healthy so I
continue to choose not to drink at all. There are other delicious
tastes.

On Jun 21, 1:01 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
> Don't mean to pry. but...teetotal by choice?
>
> On Jun 21, 4:22 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wonderful! Except I no longer drink though my taste buds can still
> > "taste" the wine. Sensory memory, I guess.
>
> > On Jun 20, 9:22 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Oh, i dont know...a full bodied merlot, a creme brulee...:)
>
> > > On Jun 20, 12:47 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > One can't order a friend like an item off a menu, you know! I'll take
> > > > you- medium rare, etc. Yum! Of course there is some give and take.
>
> > > > At the car dealer's a couple of weeks ago there was such an explosion
> > > > of smiles between me and a man my age- just for a minute. He might
> > > > have been a Scot- long legs though he was seated in an adjoining
> > > > waiting room. But maybe he was a wolf! :-) My friend said- "Just go
> > > > for those twinkling moments, dear!"
>
> > > > On Jun 20, 6:12 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > Rigsy I would have a difficult time picturing some one changing you, 
> > > > > part a
> > > > > friend ship is accepting a person as they are without qualification to
> > > > > change..
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:09 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Then aren't you putting some kind of boundary/expectation on that
> > > > > > relationship? ( You may like me, but don't attempt to change me.) 
> > > > > > How
> > > > > > can you not qualify the relationship as change "happens". Between
> > > > > > females, a male can tip the relationship. Between male and female, 
> > > > > > sex
> > > > > > can turn to love or ruin the friendship. Sometimes, the hardest 
> > > > > > person
> > > > > > to be a friend to is oneself.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 20, 2:23 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > I Thin there are many levels of friendship. Most of them I barely 
> > > > > > > know,
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > at all a casual matter, and among these levels there is a very 
> > > > > > > special
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > that accepts me as I am  but likes me any way without 
> > > > > > > qualification to
> > > > > > > change.
> > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:52 PM, pol.science kid 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]
> > > > > > >wrote:
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> > > > > > > > a few days back i read some post somewhere about the lack of
> > > > > > > > literature on friendship in philosophy mainly...and how it has 
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > ignored and so on.... so it got me thinking about the whole
> > > > > > > > affair...Friendship.... i asked myself who my friends were...i 
> > > > > > > > am very
> > > > > > > > casual in calling people my friends... in fact i realised i 
> > > > > > > > didnt
> > > > > > > > really pay much attention to it.... the word i mean... i 
> > > > > > > > wouldnt know
> > > > > > > > who to call my best friend...or a close and intimate friend...
> > > > > > > > because..it happens so to the person  whom i would reveal my 
> > > > > > > > dearest
> > > > > > > > thoughts would be a relative stranger..in fact i dont do it
> > > > > > > > much...share thoughts..personal ones...i do it here but... maybe
> > > > > > > > because of the anonymity it lends.... plus i tend to outgrow 
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > friends... i know it sounds horrible..i dont really do it on
> > > > > > > > purpose..outgrow would mean... gradually losing touch...after i 
> > > > > > > > move
> > > > > > > > or something... i am sorry i dont want to make this some sort of
> > > > > > > > confession...but there are so many questions that confront and 
> > > > > > > > rack my
> > > > > > > > brain sometimes....  is it later in life that one makes real
> > > > > > > > friends...i mean after youve left that peer space...school or
> > > > > > > > college...l in fact leave that...its not that significant... I 
> > > > > > > > once
> > > > > > > > decided that Friendship is a vague term altogether... there are
> > > > > > > > individual relationships...each having a different bearing... 
> > > > > > > > like a
> > > > > > > > security personnel at your college gate... you get the point... 
> > > > > > > > I know
> > > > > > > > this is a very vast topic.and i cant really analyse it right 
> > > > > > > > now cos
> > > > > > > > this is a kind of spontaneous typing....so let me get to another
> > > > > > > > point.... like i mentioned above i seem careless of 
> > > > > > > > friends...but yet
> > > > > > > > i sometimes complain of the loneliness... which can be 
> > > > > > > > suffocating...
> > > > > > > > and yet i draw a line and withdraw if any relation touches on 
> > > > > > > > lines of
> > > > > > > > very personal.... i think one regards personal what one 
> > > > > > > > considers
> > > > > > > > sacred... like ones thoughts..contemplations...   my question 
> > > > > > > > is....is
> > > > > > > > it possible to bond with Another... in an aristotelian way... 
> > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > i believe one can give ones life for someone but still be out of
> > > > > > > > something very impersonal.... are there some ...too self
> > > > > > > > absorbed...that it is almost impossible to connect on that 
> > > > > > > > level... it
> > > > > > > > is strange i have such high demands for any 'connection'...and 
> > > > > > > > yet i
> > > > > > > > am convinced there is no way i can really be with another 
> > > > > > > > according to
> > > > > > > > my standard... this must be awfully confusing... but there are 
> > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > smart people here ho might  get the basic point.....
> > > > > > > > who is a friend?
> > > > > > > > can one really defeat the loneliness or is this loneliness only
> > > > > > > > immaturity on the souls part......
> > > > > > > > the question is now to you my 'friends'...convince me for 
> > > > > > > > something if
> > > > > > > > you will.........
>
> > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > > I_D Allan
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