I thought about this some more. I think vanity had a lot to do with
the decision and fear, finally. I had a reaction to whiskey two
summers ago- and that prompted my decision. An ultrasound checked out
okay so that accounts for the chance/luck/timing. Anyway- thanks- as
it does take some resolve to stick with a good decision. (Actually,
"resolve" is not one of my strong points as I often "waver".)

I think taste buds are developed and I had a varied diet as a child
plus my mother was an excellent cook which countered the mystery fare
at school and camp. I guess it's good to have a critical palate. But-
Why am I paying $20. for this lunch of second rate food? What in the
world is that chef on tv throwing together? Etc. I am not talking
about elaborate fare- good food cooked well and complimented with side
dishes. (Heaven knows what I am missing by smoking! lol You might have
to pull me off the ceiling!)

On Jun 22, 3:55 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not many :)
>
> Admire your resolve.
>
> On Jun 21, 10:48 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think more by chance/luck/timing. I hate tea. :-) That's my other
> > "half"- French and Scot-Irish and a long (family) history of ardent
> > spirits and mischief. But I do remember the tastes very well and have
> > to take care not to glamorize booze for every now and then I
> > wonder...or am tempted...but am doing well and am healthy so I
> > continue to choose not to drink at all. There are other delicious
> > tastes.
>
> > On Jun 21, 1:01 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Don't mean to pry. but...teetotal by choice?
>
> > > On Jun 21, 4:22 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Wonderful! Except I no longer drink though my taste buds can still
> > > > "taste" the wine. Sensory memory, I guess.
>
> > > > On Jun 20, 9:22 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Oh, i dont know...a full bodied merlot, a creme brulee...:)
>
> > > > > On Jun 20, 12:47 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > One can't order a friend like an item off a menu, you know! I'll 
> > > > > > take
> > > > > > you- medium rare, etc. Yum! Of course there is some give and take.
>
> > > > > > At the car dealer's a couple of weeks ago there was such an 
> > > > > > explosion
> > > > > > of smiles between me and a man my age- just for a minute. He might
> > > > > > have been a Scot- long legs though he was seated in an adjoining
> > > > > > waiting room. But maybe he was a wolf! :-) My friend said- "Just go
> > > > > > for those twinkling moments, dear!"
>
> > > > > > On Jun 20, 6:12 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Rigsy I would have a difficult time picturing some one changing 
> > > > > > > you, part a
> > > > > > > friend ship is accepting a person as they are without 
> > > > > > > qualification to
> > > > > > > change..
> > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:09 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Then aren't you putting some kind of boundary/expectation on 
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > relationship? ( You may like me, but don't attempt to change 
> > > > > > > > me.) How
> > > > > > > > can you not qualify the relationship as change "happens". 
> > > > > > > > Between
> > > > > > > > females, a male can tip the relationship. Between male and 
> > > > > > > > female, sex
> > > > > > > > can turn to love or ruin the friendship. Sometimes, the hardest 
> > > > > > > > person
> > > > > > > > to be a friend to is oneself.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2:23 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I Thin there are many levels of friendship. Most of them I 
> > > > > > > > > barely know,
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > at all a casual matter, and among these levels there is a 
> > > > > > > > > very special
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > that accepts me as I am  but likes me any way without 
> > > > > > > > > qualification to
> > > > > > > > > change.
> > > > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:52 PM, pol.science kid 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]
> > > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > a few days back i read some post somewhere about the lack of
> > > > > > > > > > literature on friendship in philosophy mainly...and how it 
> > > > > > > > > > has been
> > > > > > > > > > ignored and so on.... so it got me thinking about the whole
> > > > > > > > > > affair...Friendship.... i asked myself who my friends 
> > > > > > > > > > were...i am very
> > > > > > > > > > casual in calling people my friends... in fact i realised i 
> > > > > > > > > > didnt
> > > > > > > > > > really pay much attention to it.... the word i mean... i 
> > > > > > > > > > wouldnt know
> > > > > > > > > > who to call my best friend...or a close and intimate 
> > > > > > > > > > friend...
> > > > > > > > > > because..it happens so to the person  whom i would reveal 
> > > > > > > > > > my dearest
> > > > > > > > > > thoughts would be a relative stranger..in fact i dont do it
> > > > > > > > > > much...share thoughts..personal ones...i do it here but... 
> > > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > because of the anonymity it lends.... plus i tend to 
> > > > > > > > > > outgrow some
> > > > > > > > > > friends... i know it sounds horrible..i dont really do it on
> > > > > > > > > > purpose..outgrow would mean... gradually losing 
> > > > > > > > > > touch...after i move
> > > > > > > > > > or something... i am sorry i dont want to make this some 
> > > > > > > > > > sort of
> > > > > > > > > > confession...but there are so many questions that confront 
> > > > > > > > > > and rack my
> > > > > > > > > > brain sometimes....  is it later in life that one makes real
> > > > > > > > > > friends...i mean after youve left that peer space...school 
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > college...l in fact leave that...its not that 
> > > > > > > > > > significant... I once
> > > > > > > > > > decided that Friendship is a vague term altogether... there 
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > individual relationships...each having a different 
> > > > > > > > > > bearing... like a
> > > > > > > > > > security personnel at your college gate... you get the 
> > > > > > > > > > point... I know
> > > > > > > > > > this is a very vast topic.and i cant really analyse it 
> > > > > > > > > > right now cos
> > > > > > > > > > this is a kind of spontaneous typing....so let me get to 
> > > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > point.... like i mentioned above i seem careless of 
> > > > > > > > > > friends...but yet
> > > > > > > > > > i sometimes complain of the loneliness... which can be 
> > > > > > > > > > suffocating...
> > > > > > > > > > and yet i draw a line and withdraw if any relation touches 
> > > > > > > > > > on lines of
> > > > > > > > > > very personal.... i think one regards personal what one 
> > > > > > > > > > considers
> > > > > > > > > > sacred... like ones thoughts..contemplations...   my 
> > > > > > > > > > question is....is
> > > > > > > > > > it possible to bond with Another... in an aristotelian 
> > > > > > > > > > way... because
> > > > > > > > > > i believe one can give ones life for someone but still be 
> > > > > > > > > > out of
> > > > > > > > > > something very impersonal.... are there some ...too self
> > > > > > > > > > absorbed...that it is almost impossible to connect on that 
> > > > > > > > > > level... it
> > > > > > > > > > is strange i have such high demands for any 
> > > > > > > > > > 'connection'...and yet i
> > > > > > > > > > am convinced there is no way i can really be with another 
> > > > > > > > > > according to
> > > > > > > > > > my standard... this must be awfully confusing... but there 
> > > > > > > > > > are many
> > > > > > > > > > smart people here ho might  get the basic point.....
> > > > > > > > > > who is a friend?
> > > > > > > > > > can one really defeat the loneliness or is this loneliness 
> > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > immaturity on the souls part......
> > > > > > > > > > the question is now to you my 'friends'...convince me for 
> > > > > > > > > > something if
> > > > > > > > > > you will.........
>
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >  (
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> > > > > > > > > I_D Allan
>
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