Another thought- parents and the social set were all about smoking and drinking- that's what we grew up with and carried on with various outcomes. I don't remember obesity or allergies- so that is newer.
Now- the USA is demanding gory packaging of cigarettes and probably higher prices which are alreadly ungodly. Funny, since the USA got us hooked on tobacco to begin with and is enjoying the tax revenue. So I have dug up some fancy cigarette cases of my mother's in advance and will simply throw the gory package away. Someone could start making fun cases and maybe make some money. Not that the FDA has much credibility for our food and drugs or we have won "the war on drugs". Oh, well. On Jun 21, 1:01 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > Don't mean to pry. but...teetotal by choice? > > On Jun 21, 4:22 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Wonderful! Except I no longer drink though my taste buds can still > > "taste" the wine. Sensory memory, I guess. > > > On Jun 20, 9:22 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Oh, i dont know...a full bodied merlot, a creme brulee...:) > > > > On Jun 20, 12:47 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > One can't order a friend like an item off a menu, you know! I'll take > > > > you- medium rare, etc. Yum! Of course there is some give and take. > > > > > At the car dealer's a couple of weeks ago there was such an explosion > > > > of smiles between me and a man my age- just for a minute. He might > > > > have been a Scot- long legs though he was seated in an adjoining > > > > waiting room. But maybe he was a wolf! :-) My friend said- "Just go > > > > for those twinkling moments, dear!" > > > > > On Jun 20, 6:12 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Rigsy I would have a difficult time picturing some one changing you, > > > > > part a > > > > > friend ship is accepting a person as they are without qualification to > > > > > change.. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:09 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Then aren't you putting some kind of boundary/expectation on that > > > > > > relationship? ( You may like me, but don't attempt to change me.) > > > > > > How > > > > > > can you not qualify the relationship as change "happens". Between > > > > > > females, a male can tip the relationship. Between male and female, > > > > > > sex > > > > > > can turn to love or ruin the friendship. Sometimes, the hardest > > > > > > person > > > > > > to be a friend to is oneself. > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2:23 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I Thin there are many levels of friendship. Most of them I barely > > > > > > > know, > > > > > > if > > > > > > > at all a casual matter, and among these levels there is a very > > > > > > > special > > > > > > one > > > > > > > that accepts me as I am but likes me any way without > > > > > > > qualification to > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:52 PM, pol.science kid > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > a few days back i read some post somewhere about the lack of > > > > > > > > literature on friendship in philosophy mainly...and how it has > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > ignored and so on.... so it got me thinking about the whole > > > > > > > > affair...Friendship.... i asked myself who my friends were...i > > > > > > > > am very > > > > > > > > casual in calling people my friends... in fact i realised i > > > > > > > > didnt > > > > > > > > really pay much attention to it.... the word i mean... i > > > > > > > > wouldnt know > > > > > > > > who to call my best friend...or a close and intimate friend... > > > > > > > > because..it happens so to the person whom i would reveal my > > > > > > > > dearest > > > > > > > > thoughts would be a relative stranger..in fact i dont do it > > > > > > > > much...share thoughts..personal ones...i do it here but... maybe > > > > > > > > because of the anonymity it lends.... plus i tend to outgrow > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > friends... i know it sounds horrible..i dont really do it on > > > > > > > > purpose..outgrow would mean... gradually losing touch...after i > > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > > or something... i am sorry i dont want to make this some sort of > > > > > > > > confession...but there are so many questions that confront and > > > > > > > > rack my > > > > > > > > brain sometimes.... is it later in life that one makes real > > > > > > > > friends...i mean after youve left that peer space...school or > > > > > > > > college...l in fact leave that...its not that significant... I > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > decided that Friendship is a vague term altogether... there are > > > > > > > > individual relationships...each having a different bearing... > > > > > > > > like a > > > > > > > > security personnel at your college gate... you get the point... > > > > > > > > I know > > > > > > > > this is a very vast topic.and i cant really analyse it right > > > > > > > > now cos > > > > > > > > this is a kind of spontaneous typing....so let me get to another > > > > > > > > point.... like i mentioned above i seem careless of > > > > > > > > friends...but yet > > > > > > > > i sometimes complain of the loneliness... which can be > > > > > > > > suffocating... > > > > > > > > and yet i draw a line and withdraw if any relation touches on > > > > > > > > lines of > > > > > > > > very personal.... i think one regards personal what one > > > > > > > > considers > > > > > > > > sacred... like ones thoughts..contemplations... my question > > > > > > > > is....is > > > > > > > > it possible to bond with Another... in an aristotelian way... > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > i believe one can give ones life for someone but still be out of > > > > > > > > something very impersonal.... are there some ...too self > > > > > > > > absorbed...that it is almost impossible to connect on that > > > > > > > > level... it > > > > > > > > is strange i have such high demands for any 'connection'...and > > > > > > > > yet i > > > > > > > > am convinced there is no way i can really be with another > > > > > > > > according to > > > > > > > > my standard... this must be awfully confusing... but there are > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > smart people here ho might get the basic point..... > > > > > > > > who is a friend? > > > > > > > > can one really defeat the loneliness or is this loneliness only > > > > > > > > immaturity on the souls part...... > > > > > > > > the question is now to you my 'friends'...convince me for > > > > > > > > something if > > > > > > > > you will......... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
