Leaving moderation behind has made it feel like a whole new list for me. :D
I too am worried about undue influence coopting the cause, but I think that's an inevitability of any populist movement. Even the Egyptians are warily eyeing their "liberated" government. I just hope some good is accomplished along the way. On Oct 3, 2011 7:15 PM, "Don Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm very glad to see your august presence back amongst these humble boards > Chris. > > The self portraits of 99%s with notes describing themselves affected me > somewhat. Some are easy to dismiss as whiny but many are obviously feeling > the same pain I see in family and friends around me. It literally puts a > face, many faces actually, on our problems. I'm very glad folks like you are > out there recording these times. I mean that because I see in you someone > without a particular agenda other then improvement. I have never seen you as > someone that ignores or tries to cover up obvious discrepancies in what > politicians say and what they do. I find your support of Ron Paul > refreshing. While I disagree with many of his policies the thing I most > admire about him is his consistency. There are few things our President has > done I approve of but killing terrorists is at the top of the list. Ron is > wrong on this. > > Now, with the ass kissing portion of my post out of the way, let's get to > the Occupy(pickyourplace) kerfuffle. I made the observation in a post on G+ > that this may be one of those times when you see Tea Partiers marching next > to Code Pinkers. Nobody likes corp. welfare and high unemployment except for > the lobbyists and politicians that engineer it. Even they don't like it when > they get caught. On the one hand I'm glad folks are "doing something" but on > the other I'm concerned with what seems to be unions trying to highjack the > movement for their own selfish ends. They are some of the biggest causes of > our current crisis. Just read s story how GM has thousands of Volts sitting > around not getting sold. This is what happens when government builds your > cars or your solar panels. Somebody else always makes them better AND > cheaper. My concern is most of those 'protesting' don't see things quite the > same way I do. Far too many are on the Class Warfare path and this disturbs > me. I have no beef with the rich. In fact, I appreciate that they pay the > most and give the most. I hate favoritism and that is what government > control and the punish/reward aspect of taxation is all about. I hate it. > It's why I like Herman Cain's 'plan' of 9-9-9 better then anything else > anybody has come up with. Getting rid of ALL the loopholes for the very > wealthy would be awesome. It's galling to find out some of the most ardent > celebrity liberal supporters have much of their wealth sheltered from taxes. > Smart but hugely hypocritical. That said the rich aren't the problem, our > screwy tax laws and a political class bent on pork and back scratching and > huge, mind numbing waste are. I agree we need to clean house in Washington > but I fear most of those in the streets would disagree with me who the major > culprits are. > > As usual, Rigs makes the most sense of all the comments here. While I'm not > a supporter of the status quo exactly I do have a substantial amount of my > retirement in the market and T-bills. The required destruction of our > current system to come up with something more to Archy's taste I'm scared to > death of. That's what crazy people like George Soros want. That's not for > me. A more vigilant FTC and massive simplification of the tax code I would > welcome. > > Thems my thoughts but I'm keeping an open mind. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ok, let's settle for rule #10! :) >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Chris Jenkins <[email protected] >wrote: >> >>> Fantastic link, Gabby! I especially like number 10. :D >>> >>> No, by normalcy, I meant that the media focus to date has been on the >>> counterculture types mostly, while ignoring those in business casual attire. >>> It makes it easy for the audience at large to be separate from them. I want >>> to show the world how many of their PEERS are there, coworkers, colleagues, >>> classmates...I want them to see that this isn't just some angry washed out >>> hippies, but an actual populist uprising comprised of their friends and >>> neighbors. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Ah, Chris, let me make clear that we understand that the "normal" >>>> American media is employing this technique of "creating a sense of >>>> connection" which worries us here across the pond. We therefore >>>> welcome independent views in the U.S. What you'd call "left" is still very >>>> much "right" for our senses. What you call normalcy is what we often >>>> perceive as extremely ignorant. >>>> >>>> Let me give you an example of how we believe you need to take photos that >>>> deserve the label "independent": >>>> http://www.lomography.com/about/the-ten-golden-rules >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Chris Jenkins < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Danke, Gabby! There's a general sense of marginalization about the >>>>> group, and I'm hoping to capture the normalcy of the protesters...create a >>>>> sense of connection. >>>>> On Oct 3, 2011 11:50 AM, "gabbydott" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > Cheers, Chris! Documenting and sharing what you see as happening is a >>>>> good >>>>> > thing, I find. >>>>> > >>>>> > It is very much of THE thing to do today, to gather with people who >>>>> share >>>>> > one's own view to demonstrate one's enlarged physical mass. I don't >>>>> think >>>>> > that it is smarter than finding new ways of fair communication >>>>> beforehand, >>>>> > though. >>>>> > >>>>> > But hey, we've had our share of "we are the people" pictures 22 years >>>>> ago >>>>> > and we won. Go ahead and do it the American (occupying) Style! Learn >>>>> to take >>>>> > scalps if you must but leave the heads on! >>>>> > >>>>> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Chris Jenkins < >>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> So what do you all think of the various regional Occupy groups >>>>> springing up >>>>> >> around the US, emulating OccupyWallStreet? I'm going out to >>>>> OccupyTampa on >>>>> >> Thursday to do some independent media photography, but am curious >>>>> about the >>>>> >> perception of the country and world at large. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>
