KKipling once wrote "Trust your self when all men doubt you ,, but make allowance for their doubting too." I do Allan
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Oct 13, 7:54 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > LOL predestination is just away to avoid taking responsibility for you > > action.. believe it if you want but it is wise to be prepared to be > wrong, I > > hope I am. > > Allan > > > > "Free will is not compatible with a space-time continuum." A quote by > Einstein. Since Special Relativity has been empirically proven by > time dilation repeatedly, predestination IS the proven truth. How can > an omnipotent God give us humans--or any thinking thing--any power > (like the power to choose) and remain omnipotent? It can't! > Therefore, it doesn't. Take your own advice, my friend, and feel free > to prepare yourself to be wrong. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:11 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I like the theme RP - but what of being 'bound' by genetics/evolution/ > > > environment - which gives some clues on how to escape through > > > knowledge? > > > > > On Oct 13, 4:30 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It is God who binds you and not you yourself , and so you are > > > > accountable to yourself and society , but not to God. In this world > > > > you are doing everything freely , but in God's presence you are just > a > > > > puppet. If I am bound to err , it doesn't absolve me of the action as > > > > it has been done by me , and if you hurt me , again you are > > > > accountable for it as it is done by you. It is only in God's presence > > > > that you are innocent as you are a puppet in his hand , but in man's > > > > world you are accountable and responsible for every action unless > > > > society frees you of that responsibility on the grounds of insanity > on > > > > your part. You are always the agent and as such always responsible > for > > > > your every action and inaction. > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > When everything is predetermined... and if we all accept that as > > > > > fact... accountability is without meaning ! > > > > > > > Accountability has a meaning when I have a choice in the matter, > and > > > > > if I am aware of that personal freedom. > > > > > > > On Oct 13, 7:46 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> When everything is predetermined , the obvious truth that it is > man > > > > >> who is acting , makes man accountable to man and society and not > to > > > > >> God. > > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Vam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >> > But I couldn't see the rational thread between the "God > alone..." > > > > >> > premise and its "Man alone..." derivative ! > > > > > > >> > On Oct 13, 7:20 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> I rather like the idea RP, of the corollary. > > > > > > >> >> On Oct 13, 3:02 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > AS everything good and evil is done by God's dictates and > > > everything > > > > >> >> > that a man endures is from God's pleasure , the corollary > follows > > > -- > > > > >> >> > whatever a man does , he is free to do and accountable to > man and > > > > >> >> > society. > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > |_D Allan > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
