Hi Allan, I've noticed you making that distinction in your terminology before. I am more with Pat on not wanting to put God onto an extra cloud but to view the God phenomenon as the/an entirety. Which is why I would be allowed to parallel the "Who and where is God?" question with the "Who am I and where is the I located?" question. The emphasis on God being totally separated from the universe he created I read as an emancipated reaction to the maternal physical belonging. An over-reaction though. As for Master Jesus, he is God's son. Good. The soul's bondage relation to the great mandala is indeed worrisome.
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > This probably will make little or no sense, but here goes anyway... > > The Entirety created the universe as we know it. Some people say there are > different strings or many universes each with its own God .. I really don't > care if it is true or not because anything is possible within the entirety, > in reality the Entirety is beyond my mind to comprehend. Yet there are > fragments of my beliefs that can be examined. > > The idea of the Entirely is to escape from the common concept that God and > the human population are totally separate, the idea of a God that is totally > separated from the universe that he created. I have yet to find a > satisfactory answer to "Who and where is God?" The answers I do get seem to > be just so much babble that is designed to add confusion to the question > with out really answering it. There have been other muggled answers but it > seems that no one within the religious communities want to give the answer > "I really don't know." To them apparently the answer of "It is a divine > mystery is a better answer." is far better. You hear a lot of the "divine > mystery" within the Roman Catholic church in which I was raised. > > What I have found out is either beliefs are growing and expanding or they > are dying. I personally want a faith that grows and has the ability to > expand, not one that is rigid and not yielding. > > As for divine mysteries the question always pops up n my mind "What does God > have to hide?" Mysteries are to be explored and solved. Spirituality is > an experience to be lived. The variety can be infinite in nature. I have met > several people with experiences similar to mine, they are each unique and > special. You can stop after any one of those experiences and have an > extremely rich spiritual life. Most people do just that, others after one > experience run off preaching hell fire and brimstone, leaving me wondering > just what their experience was, or those that run off wanting to heal > everyone. Don't get me wrong healing can be very very real and that type of > energy is there, but what is presented reminds me of a song verse 'Oh Lord > won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz , my friends all have Porches and I must > make amends!'. Then again we live in a very gimme world so what can I > expect. > > The name 'Entirety' comes from trying to find an existing word that best > defines my vision of what I conceive God to be and not have it tainted by > other predefined definitions. The only word at this point I have found is > 'the Entirety'. A simple word that encompasses everything, whether I > understand it or not. So the word Entirety encompasses all that said to be > God and then beyond. > > Now the Entirety is everything that is physical spiritual and beyond, > leaving nothing out. Now our soul and bodies are just simply part of the > entirety. As for trying to explain the concept it is beyond me. There are a > whole lot of questions in this realm to which the only answer I know is I > don't know. So you are running up against the I don't know.. maybe someday > someone will be able to answer those questions,, They are a one step at a > time thing. That has been my personal experience with spirituality is a step > at a time as I would not be able to handle it all at once. Spirituality has > to be able to grow and expand. > > Please realize I am though a follower of Jesus first of many brothers. In > saying that I am not a paulist because he dogma and doctrine wrong, they > destroy the teachings and spirituality of Master Jesus. > > The Entirety concept frees everything from dogma and doctrine of churches. > The idea is to understand the relationship between myself and the Entirety. > It seems churches do everything they can do to prevent that relationship. > > Looking at the Entirety from the stand point of the mandala or wheel of > life. Each soul is looking for its location within that Mandala. It is only > recently that the soul has been making sense or at least starting to. > > I have several stories similar in nature to my own but they make little > difference as the point is only that often times I see things from a > different view point hopefully giving an insight as to why. My world has > transformed to a world where the Entirety has become the center of my > universe. The truth is I don't want the Entirety any place else the center > of my universe. Funny he truly is the center of the universe and so much > more. > > The dual nature of man is very interesting. Oddly most churches believe in > the spirit side and say there is the soul. From there they talk about heaven > and hell with a whole lot of condemnation and fear used to control the human > side. Giving all importance to the physical side, ignoring the spiritual > side. You see the ignoring of the spiritual side in the form of greed.. > murder especially with out conscious thought or care.. everyone is > responsible for their actions and failure to act. The Teachings of the > different religions are really creating a dangerous world for the existence > of the soul. > > Joking around in a discussion I made a comment that maybe we are spiritual > Zombies, only to find out later that there is an islamic group that has a > very idea as I was looking at the idea, we have often discussed the duality > of man being both soul and spirit. Now if a person starts looking at the > soul and its preexistence before being born. Then that in reality makes the > body a vehicle for the soul. That raises the question what is it a vehicle > for or just what is its purpose. > > Now in reality we are spiritual beings, just like what the christian world > refers to as angels. Becoming human is a choice. The Entirety give us the > ability to chose and improve our status on the great mandala or as it is > known in christianity as heaven and earth. Every soul knows what is required > of it to improve its status in the spiritual realm and upon entering the > human vehicle it essentially loses its memory of the realm from which it > originated. In the human vehicle it needs to learn that it is a spiritual > being and how it responds determines the status, Oddly there is an ancient > law that simply states 'above all do no harm' and there are many ways of > doing harm, in today's world there are many ways that no one even blinks at > any more. People have become blind to the rest of the world and what effects > their actions have on the rest of the population. > > In the roman rite of christianity there is prayer when you are asking > forgiveness that goes "in what I have done and what I have failed to do." > and the failed to do in this world is a spiritual killer. The excuse there > is nothing I can do never really holds true. Politicians that are raping the > the country for personal gain and that of their buddies. If you are voting > for them you are saying that okay I approve of your actions keep up the good > work. When they remove support for the elderly and poor in favor of their > war machine and killing. When you buy stock in companies that are raping the > earths minerals and resources. or industries that are robbing people to put > better their financial interest.. sometimes in activity or not doing or > saying something is just as damaging to the soul. A person can go on for > volumes and that is what the churches have done - obey the volumes of laws > and rules. > > Personally I think that if people realized the effect that their actions > have on their soul the world would change.. like a lot of things it seems > that everything is backward,, the importance is stressed on the human > vehicle rather that the soul that it contains. This makes no sense as the > human form last less than 125 years in the greatest majority of cases, then > it returns to dust and the soul is resurrected back into the spiritual > realm to find out if it improved its status in the great mandala. > > Which is more important. > Allan > > > > -- > > > --
