I was even reading that english is a variation of german,, krauts are every where.. which is weird..
what i don't like seeing is the wealth being pissed in to just a very few pockets and they don't even bother to pay taxes on the money it makes . Allan On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > So the Germans are responsible for Haggis as well as all the > rest? Figures... > > I always liked the idea of unearned income. In fact, I've really been > looking forward to it and it's why I've saved and invested so assiduously > over the years. It angers me beyond telling to see my own government > pissing my hard earned savings down the toilet to "spread the wealth > around" to the multitudes that haven't bother to save a dime. It infuriates > me if you want to know the truth. > > dj > > > On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:55:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >> >> They start earlier in Singapore Gabby. We had the knowing-how/knowing >> what debate here once, but as you can imagine any attempt to say the >> Germans had beaten us to the verstahen was met with xenophobia and >> references to Hans bombing our chip shop. Bildung sounds suspiciously >> Germanic here too, so we avoided that in favour of cop shows, soap >> opera, advertising and thinking it smart of equate Einstein with E = >> MC2. Imagine my disappointment at all the hard work in learning >> German on finding a country with advertising soppier than our own! >> >> One of my smart nieces could handle spreadsheets at 8. Many of my >> adult charges would be better off with the Alheretic Abacus. You are >> right, of course. Knowledge, like government, needs to be in the >> right hands under the right control. No doubt if we design the >> control, the wrong people would then simply change to its new >> rhetoric, as the apparatchiks became entrepreneurchiks. >> >> One could design a spreadsheet that showed where human effort goes in >> a real time trickle and historic flood to the rich through unearned >> income. We could tinker with it or the rich might use it as a modern >> Domesday Book (which shows the English were basically German - imagine >> my horror on discovering we Scots and even porridge are basically >> German too) and rip us off even more. I suspect spreadsheet literacy >> (which isn't knowing Excel) could put an end to vapid political debate >> on such matters as the welfare drain and that financial services >> contribute to GDP. Suspicious minds might wonder less on the vapidity >> of Leibniz's desire for a social calculus and more on the absence of >> an objective spreadsheet on wealth and its creation and the ever- >> presence on television economics of rich prats in City braces telling >> us to be thankful we can follow rich rocking horses about to pick >> crumbs from their droppings. >> >> On 17 Sep, 23:17, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I agree that Wissen+Können should work hand in hand. >> > Yet I don't see why this should start as late as by the age of 14. I >> > imagine it's easier to handle the spreadsheets from that age onwards. >> > Each well-defined cell can then be accurately filled with the specific >> > content to generate the best future as desired. Immediate modification >> > option included and easily scalable. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > We'll have to convert you to carbon dioxide as a propellant Allan. >> > >> > > At one point I used to do remedial maths with engineers. I rarely >> got >> > > through. In the course f a class I could shift most of the class to >> > > get stuff right, but they'd forget in a week. These same people >> could >> > > perform reasonably well in jobs. At higher academic levels I had >> > > people who could intercourse the inverse differential of Zarkian >> time- >> > > travel who couldn't boil and egg because they waited for the gas to >> > > come on without a match. >> > >> > > We could almost do with a control group who don't do school so we >> > > could see if it really does make much difference. I suspect a lot f >> > > it is learning to do what you are told in order to be employable >> doing >> > > just that. My best students didn't learn much from me. >> > >> > > On Sep 17, 7:14 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> Kid are trained to read a book then answer questions based on what >> they >> > >> read. Unfortunately that is what and how they have been taught to >> learn. >> > >> Creating and even bigger problem.. the computer games are not any >> better >> > >> in creating creative learning. >> > >> > >> I agree with you at 14 the education should split with 7 year more >> > >> training available for on going training .. everything goes,, >> maybe they >> > >> will create a trade in computer programming?? I think they put to >> much >> > >> garbage into the educational system. >> > >> Allan >> > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:18 PM, archytas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > I'd like to see kids out of school at 14. I'd give everyone 7 >> years >> > >> > of further free training or education after that. >> > >> > >> > In England we are admitting our GCSE exams were never worth spit >> and >> > >> > that coursework is a dud method. I suspect what we aren't doing >> is >> > >> > admitting how useless education really is for most people. Having >> > >> > kids in school so they can commune with each other and be minded >> until >> > >> > 14 is fair enough. The few who can benefit from academic study >> need >> > >> > to be encouraged to both fit in with the rabble and be given the >> > >> > chance to establish learning fellowship amongst themselves. Much >> of >> > >> > this could now be a university of the air. >> > >> > >> > The plan in England is to go back to exams, strangely at 16 given >> the >> > >> > assertion school is to be forced on everyone until 18. We had a >> plan >> > >> > for grammar schools, technical and secondary moderns once. The >> > >> > current lunacy is really just a reversion to that. Our grammar >> and >> > >> > public schools broadly taught dross about classics and empire. >> > >> > >> > From what I see walking the dog, our schools fail to do much with >> most >> > >> > kids. Litter is a big problem. I tested three 101 classes for >> > >> > research purposes last year to see if any of them could write >> > >> > spreadsheet cells and do literature search. That was 110 people >> and >> > >> > the results were zero. Extending the test a bit into such matters >> as >> > >> > which are the world's largest manufacturers (some of these people >> have >> > >> > economics at A level) or the origins of world wars in trade and >> > >> > finance also zilch. >> > >> > >> > In front of these know-littles was a 101 programme about learning >> a >> > >> > few chapters of books in order to answer questions based on them. >> > >> > Work makes more sense as education than this. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> -- >> > >> ( >> > >> ) >> > >> |_D Allan >> > >> > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > >> I am a Natural Airgunner - >> > >> > >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. >> > >> > > -- >> > -- > > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. I am a Natural Airgunner - Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
