they have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar ,, and it really is not allowed.. Unlike the bush administration when the banks were caught with their hands (both) they were given more money to make sure they are full.
The truth is they were in violation of the law.. that simple Allan On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:13 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > The EU countries have different work and leisure models. It's more > about culture than greed, I think. So why did all that money wind up > in the British banking system? > > On Sep 19, 3:57 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > I know the function o the EU was to allow the countries to work together > > taking advantage of the EU production.. but greed gets into place and > those > > people don't give a damn. > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:46 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Don has just repeated the parable of the grasshopper and ant. Francis > > > Bacon put the bee forward as an example of industry to follow - though > > > they actually spend a lot of time incumbent (snoozing). My grandson > > > is currently in grasshopper mode. > > > > > There's a lot to empathise with in Don's tale. I doubt government is > > > the prime redirector of our savings - this is what the crooked > > > financial sector does. The model is 'smuggling' - an activity that is > > > really about stealing tax. > > > > > I rather lie the industrious German model. The problem with > > > Merkelisation is you get so good at producing manufactures it makes no > > > sense for anyone else to make them and thus have anything worth > > > exchanging for them and lots of Germans hogging the pool and prime sun- > > > lounging sites. The old EU idea was that areas would focus on what > > > they were good at, achieving economies of scale and the diamond of > > > competitive advantage. These products would thus be swapped between > > > these amazingly efficient areas. You even hear idiots saying all our > > > food should be grown in Brazil because its cheaper there. > > > > > My question really concerns how much work we need to do in Don's > > > model. My guess is not much. In economic terms I wonder what could > > > be efficient about a financial sector doing more than just servicing > > > productive investment and being allowed to steal as though it was > > > government. > > > > > I must say I don't usually lump porridge, haggis and Gabby together in > > > my thoughts. > > > > > On 19 Sep, 09:11, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I was even reading that english is a variation of german,, krauts > are > > > > every where.. which is weird.. > > > > > > what i don't like seeing is the wealth being pissed in to just a > very few > > > > pockets and they don't even bother to pay taxes on the money it > makes . > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > So the Germans are responsible for Haggis as well as all the > > > > > rest? Figures... > > > > > > > I always liked the idea of unearned income. In fact, I've really > been > > > > > looking forward to it and it's why I've saved and invested so > > > assiduously > > > > > over the years. It angers me beyond telling to see my own > government > > > > > pissing my hard earned savings down the toilet to "spread the > wealth > > > > > around" to the multitudes that haven't bother to save a dime. It > > > infuriates > > > > > me if you want to know the truth. > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:55:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > > > > > >> They start earlier in Singapore Gabby. We had the > knowing-how/knowing > > > > >> what debate here once, but as you can imagine any attempt to say > the > > > > >> Germans had beaten us to the verstahen was met with xenophobia and > > > > >> references to Hans bombing our chip shop. Bildung sounds > suspiciously > > > > >> Germanic here too, so we avoided that in favour of cop shows, soap > > > > >> opera, advertising and thinking it smart of equate Einstein with > E = > > > > >> MC2. Imagine my disappointment at all the hard work in learning > > > > >> German on finding a country with advertising soppier than our own! > > > > > > >> One of my smart nieces could handle spreadsheets at 8. Many of my > > > > >> adult charges would be better off with the Alheretic Abacus. You > are > > > > >> right, of course. Knowledge, like government, needs to be in the > > > > >> right hands under the right control. No doubt if we design the > > > > >> control, the wrong people would then simply change to its new > > > > >> rhetoric, as the apparatchiks became entrepreneurchiks. > > > > > > >> One could design a spreadsheet that showed where human effort > goes in > > > > >> a real time trickle and historic flood to the rich through > unearned > > > > >> income. We could tinker with it or the rich might use it as a > modern > > > > >> Domesday Book (which shows the English were basically German - > imagine > > > > >> my horror on discovering we Scots and even porridge are basically > > > > >> German too) and rip us off even more. I suspect spreadsheet > literacy > > > > >> (which isn't knowing Excel) could put an end to vapid political > debate > > > > >> on such matters as the welfare drain and that financial services > > > > >> contribute to GDP. Suspicious minds might wonder less on the > vapidity > > > > >> of Leibniz's desire for a social calculus and more on the absence > of > > > > >> an objective spreadsheet on wealth and its creation and the ever- > > > > >> presence on television economics of rich prats in City braces > telling > > > > >> us to be thankful we can follow rich rocking horses about to pick > > > > >> crumbs from their droppings. > > > > > > >> On 17 Sep, 23:17, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > I agree that Wissen+Können should work hand in hand. > > > > >> > Yet I don't see why this should start as late as by the age of > 14. I > > > > >> > imagine it's easier to handle the spreadsheets from that age > > > onwards. > > > > >> > Each well-defined cell can then be accurately filled with the > > > specific > > > > >> > content to generate the best future as desired. Immediate > > > modification > > > > >> > option included and easily scalable. > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM, archytas <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > We'll have to convert you to carbon dioxide as a propellant > Allan. > > > > > > >> > > At one point I used to do remedial maths with engineers. I > rarely > > > > >> got > > > > >> > > through. In the course f a class I could shift most of the > class > > > to > > > > >> > > get stuff right, but they'd forget in a week. These same > people > > > > >> could > > > > >> > > perform reasonably well in jobs. At higher academic levels I > had > > > > >> > > people who could intercourse the inverse differential of > Zarkian > > > > >> time- > > > > >> > > travel who couldn't boil and egg because they waited for the > gas > > > to > > > > >> > > come on without a match. > > > > > > >> > > We could almost do with a control group who don't do school > so we > > > > >> > > could see if it really does make much difference. I suspect a > > > lot f > > > > >> > > it is learning to do what you are told in order to be > employable > > > > >> doing > > > > >> > > just that. My best students didn't learn much from me. > > > > > > >> > > On Sep 17, 7:14 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > >> Kid are trained to read a book then answer questions based on > > > what > > > > >> they > > > > >> > >> read. Unfortunately that is what and how they have been > taught to > > > > >> learn. > > > > >> > >> Creating and even bigger problem.. the computer games are > not > > > any > > > > >> better > > > > >> > >> in creating creative learning. > > > > > > >> > >> I agree with you at 14 the education should split with 7 year > > > more > > > > >> > >> training available for on going training .. everything > goes,, > > > > >> maybe they > > > > >> > >> will create a trade in computer programming?? I think they > put > > > to > > > > >> much > > > > >> > >> garbage into the educational system. > > > > >> > >> Allan > > > > > > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:18 PM, archytas <[email protected] > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > >> > I'd like to see kids out of school at 14. I'd give > everyone 7 > > > > >> years > > > > >> > >> > of further free training or education after that. > > > > > > >> > >> > In England we are admitting our GCSE exams were never worth > > > spit > > > > >> and > > > > >> > >> > that coursework is a dud method. I suspect what we aren't > > > doing > > > > >> is > > > > >> > >> > admitting how useless education really is for most people. > > > Having > > > > >> > >> > kids in school so they can commune with each other and be > > > minded > > > > >> until > > > > >> > >> > 14 is fair enough. The few who can benefit from academic > study > > > > >> need > > > > >> > >> > to be encouraged to both fit in with the rabble and be > given > > > the > > > > >> > >> > chance to establish learning fellowship amongst themselves. > > > Much > > > > >> of > > > > >> > >> > this could now be a university of the air. > > > > > > >> > >> > The plan in England is to go back to exams, strangely at 16 > > > given > > > > >> the > > > > >> > >> > assertion school is to be forced on everyone until 18. We > had > > > a > > > > >> plan > > > > >> > >> > for grammar schools, technical and secondary moderns once. > The > > > > >> > >> > current lunacy is really just a reversion to that. Our > grammar > > > > >> and > > > > >> > >> > public schools broadly taught dross about classics and > empire. > > > > > > >> > >> > From what I see walking the dog, our schools fail to do > much > > > with > > > > >> most > > > > >> > >> > kids. Litter is a big problem. I tested three 101 > classes for > > > > >> > >> > research purposes last year to see if any of them could > write > > > > >> > >> > spreadsheet cells and do literature search. That was 110 > > > people > > > > >> and > > > > >> > >> > the results were zero. Extending the test a bit into such > > > matters > > > > >> as > > > > >> > >> > which are the world's largest manufacturers (some of these > > > people > > > > >> have > > > > >> > >> > economics at A level) or the origins of world wars in > trade and > > > > >> > >> > finance also zilch. > > > > > > >> > >> > In front of these know-littles was a 101 programme about > > > learning > > > > >> a > > > > >> > >> > few chapters of books in order to answer questions based on > > > them. > > > > >> > >> > Work makes more sense as education than this. > > > > > > >> > >> > -- > > > > > > >> > >> -- > > > > >> > >> ( > > > > >> > >> ) > > > > >> > >> |_D Allan > > > > > > >> > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > > > > >> > >> I am a Natural Airgunner - > > > > > > >> > >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > |_D Allan > > > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. I am a Natural Airgunner - Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
