That which exist is Being , and consciousness does't have levels but parameters -- sound , sight , etc.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > The we disagree again RP. Unless you and I have differing concepts on what > consciousness is? My cats are conscious, would they have an understanding > of God as a human does? I suspect not, but they are surely conscious > creatures. It may be that I infer I am currently in discourse with another > conscious entity, but I'd rather say it is empirically correct that I am > doing so rather than it is an inference that I can make. After all are we > not members of the same species? Without being too general, I think such > inferences that I can make about myself as a human must also hold true for > other humans. I must breathe to live, so can I infer that others of my > species must also do the same, or can I claim knowledge that it is true? > > I get what you mean of course, I can ever only really say I think, therefore > I am. However when an inference takes place day in and day out, I think it > better to regard such 'truth' as knowledge. Thus I know you are conscious, > as you are human, and I know I am conscious. My cats show all the signs of > being conscious and indeed as you would expect of conscious beings. the > both exhibit different attitudes and personalities. > > So once again we are back to the following two questions. What do you mean > by 'being', and at what level of 'consciousness' does this proof of yours > need to be, to be proof? > > > On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 12:20:34 UTC+1, RP Singh wrote: >> >> As far as a person is concerned , there is only one consciousness , >> that is , his. Others are inferred, as also the existence of god. >> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Meh! I know plankton exist, is it conscious, or would you not call it a >> > being? Or perhaps we can discuss levels of consciousness? Nope I can't >> > get >> > with this argument RP, far too many holes in it. >> > >> > >> > On Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:20:45 UTC+1, RP Singh wrote: >> >> >> >> Conscious beings are a proof of God because otherwise an unconscious >> >> Being >> >> could not be said to exist. Existence is the seed which finds its >> >> growth in >> >> life. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > > > -- > > > --
