Yes, I'm not quite sure yet what to think of the moocy business
either. The idea is good though, I find.
As for games in education or gamification of educational content, it
is a great help for autistic learners, yes. The rules and constraints
within the bubble are reliable and predictable and the excitement
level is guaranteed. Knowledge transfer happens in a state of flow and
everyone is happy in the end. Or so. I didn't follow up on Chris'
Aemoebe(?) game project based on crowd funding. - I would want the
real kids to be given all the resources and support they need to be
able to produce their own games.

2012/11/15 archytas <[email protected]>:
> We seem to be stuck in the ideological mud, including such stuff as
> education being any use to people who can't do it and allowing
> qualifications to focus power - an old Guild trick.  The huge costs of
> 'expertise' focused in individuals rather than in an equal access
> system in which it is embodied is the same as unionised power.  We now
> have computer buildings situated next to federal finance buildings in
> order to get information nano-seconds quicker so traders can front-run
> (illegal) on the inequity of information.  There are such games
> Allan.  When people play them in lab conditions knowing they are
> scrutinised they make the social, cooperative choices - fix a game
> where they think they aren't being scrutinised and they cheat.
>
> On 15 Nov, 04:51, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The business model is going to need be one for the betterment of society
>> rather than just for the desires of self and wealth. It is okay to have
>> wealth when it is used to improve and provide  for people , yet you can not
>> gain wealth at the expense of other especially the poor.
>>
>> Maybe a game can be devised that teaches social awareness rather than self.
>> Allan
>>
>> Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
>> On Nov 14, 2012 5:40 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > Massive Open Online Courses (MOOC).  I promoted the idea that most of
>> > what is done in classrooms after 13 should be replaced by online
>> > programmes in a project in the 1980s.  The technology lagged the idea
>> > then - and the idea wasn't much more than that of students reading-up
>> > before lectures and doing hard problem solving in tutorials.  We were
>> > developing interactive role-play videos at the time.  It was very
>> > expensive and the technology not up to speed.  A CD burner cost around
>> > $30K in today's money.
>>
>> > In fact, mainstream university education outside science went
>> > backwards to more and more formal teaching and death by Powerpoint -
>> > it was what lecturers were trained to do.  The MOOC model is now
>> > getting stronger and Bill Gates is investing through bis trust.
>>
>> > One project I'd love to have a go at is to produce video games that
>> > teach basics from cell biology to business.  Cell biology lends itself
>> > to science fiction.  Whilst cells are tiny the scale of what goes on
>> > in them and their structures are 'Star Wars'.  One could devise a game
>> > based in virus attack and the 'arms wars' of co-evolution.  My
>> > business game would probably be based on Al Capone.  You can write the
>> > things in hypertext with lots of links to knowledge.
>> > The games could probably be written to allow simulated research too -
>> > we have virtual reality labs to teach engineering.
>>
>> > We could probably write community project simulations too - about,
>> > say, setting up community-based food supply and property building.
>>
>> > The fundamental idea in this is the embodiment of expert knowledge -
>> > much as we have embodied man artisanal skills in machines.
>>
>> > The models of education we do have rely on academic forms of learning
>> > only few are much good at.  In higher education e have seen the
>> > expansion of this to a massive debt cost.  This from Zerohedge
>> > somewhere:
>> > Career Education, when it reported its quarterly financial results,
>> > shed more light on an industry that had ruthlessly taken advantage of
>> > quirks in the American way of funding higher education, and that, even
>> > more insidiously, had preyed on gullible prospective students who were
>> > desperately trying to better their lives. Then it handed the tab to
>> > the taxpayer who couldn’t say no. A perfect scam. And it contributed
>> > to a ruinous mountain of student loans [ Next: Bankruptcy for a whole
>> > Generation].
>>
>> > In the halcyon days of 2010, Career Education had $2.09 billion in
>> > annual revenues. Then a free-fall. By September 30, quarterly revenues
>> > hit $333 million. Enrollment was down 23%, in the health education
>> > category 41%. An additional 900 people will be laid off, on top of the
>> > previously announced 1,300. The company will “gradually” close 23 of
>> > its 90 campuses. Red ink is gushing, with no end in sight. The stock
>> > has plunged from $70 in June 2004 to today’s 52-week intraday low of
>> > $2.60.
>>
>> >  Career Education is in good company. The largest player in the
>> > industry, University of Phoenix, which is owned by Apollo Group, is
>> > also getting hammered by scandals and declining revenues. Enrolment
>> > has plummeted from over 400,000 students to 328,000. To halt the
>> > bleeding, it shuttered 115 locations in 30 states.
>>
>> > Corinthian Colleges got hit as well. One of its specialties was the
>> > Ability-to-Benefit program, under which students without high school
>> > diploma or GED had been receiving student loans and grants to attend
>> > classes though they had virtually no chance of graduating. As of July
>> > 1, 2012, the government shut off the spigot.
>>
>> > Now scrambling to get back on that gravy train, the school is offering
>> > free GED preparation programs to high-school dropouts, expecting for
>> > “some portion of successful GED completers to enroll” in its
>> > institutions. And it’s trying hard to sign up new students to pocket
>> > their financial aid: marketing and admission expenses were about 25%
>> > of revenues.... “Our mission is to change students’ lives,” the press
>> > release said.
>>
>> > Corinthian Colleges is selling some campuses and shuttering others,
>> > particularly in California where the crackdown has become more
>> > aggressive. For a reason: the out-of-money state is trying to reign in
>> > the cost of its Cal Grants, a financial aid system that ballooned from
>> > $915 million to $1.6 billion in eight years.
>>
>> > These schools are facing tighter regulations all around. On the
>> > federal level, the Department of Education, for instance, banned
>> > incentives paid to admissions reps or recruiters for the number of
>> > students they hoodwinked into enrolling. Pressures are rising to get
>> > these schools to prioritize student graduation and job placement,
>> > rather than just grabbing financial-aid money. But, as the financial
>> > results demonstrate, that push blew up their entire business model.
>>
>> > In its dazzling manner, the for-profit post-secondary education boom
>> > left behind a long trail of wrecked dreams, unfinished or worthless
>> > degrees, wasted time, and a huge pile of student loans resting on the
>> > shoulders of people who were unable to find jobs in the fields they’d
>> > studied and who are now unable to pay back these loans. In the
>> > process, these outfits sucked up taxpayer-funded state and federal
>> > financial aid of all types and made early investors and executives
>> > rich. At their peaks, the stocks were picked up by mutual funds and
>> > were thus sneakily stuffed into well-diversified portfolios and
>> > 401k’s, as recommended by all of Wall Street. Because somebody has got
>> > to buy this stuff on the way down.
>>
>> > The situation in the UK - where HE is technically public sector, is
>> > little different.  I have moved out of undergraduate education to
>> > assessing work-based schemes.  This is dreadful - but at least my pay
>> > doesn't rely on putting young people into £40K of debt.  There are
>> > young people all over the world in this condition - notably the 'Ant
>> > People' of China - even their expanding economy doesn't provide decent
>> > jobs for graduates.
>>
>> > My own suspicion is education is not a good thing.  I'm an
>> > educationalist so this doesn't make much sense.  They key problem is
>> > trying to exploit it through already failing bubsiness models (I'll
>> > leave the typo as it sounds right) - and what scares me is that we are
>> > hoping for salvation through them.
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