I play a thing called Darkspore when really bored. On 16 Nov, 13:43, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > and what is ingress for? > Allan > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > OK, boys, let's stop the weeping and whining, our data are needed. > > I requested an invite here:http://www.ingress.com. Let's augment our > > sad reality! > > > 2012/11/15 Allan H <[email protected]>: > >> that figure a game that teaches morality then using it to deceive people.. > >> Sad so sad. > >> Allan > > >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:28 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> It probably all comes down to the spread of the means of production > >>> Gabby. One of the great pieces of strategic management was the order > >>> to allow his troops to sit down by a Russian general - cutting > >>> casualties by 50%. This rather exposed the stupidity of the rules of > >>> engagement. I have tried a game with tax avoidance, criminal money > >>> and the standard value chain recently and my 'kids' soon got the hang > >>> of such 'business management'. No great skill with numbers was needed > >>> as I'd written some 'code' similar to financial algos that showed > >>> clear outcomes. Starbucks is using something similar. Ethics > >>> discussion arises in terms of having to do what the opposition might > >>> be getting away with. > > >>> On 15 Nov, 17:41, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Yes, I'm not quite sure yet what to think of the moocy business > >>>> either. The idea is good though, I find. > >>>> As for games in education or gamification of educational content, it > >>>> is a great help for autistic learners, yes. The rules and constraints > >>>> within the bubble are reliable and predictable and the excitement > >>>> level is guaranteed. Knowledge transfer happens in a state of flow and > >>>> everyone is happy in the end. Or so. I didn't follow up on Chris' > >>>> Aemoebe(?) game project based on crowd funding. - I would want the > >>>> real kids to be given all the resources and support they need to be > >>>> able to produce their own games. > > >>>> 2012/11/15 archytas <[email protected]>: > > >>>> > We seem to be stuck in the ideological mud, including such stuff as > >>>> > education being any use to people who can't do it and allowing > >>>> > qualifications to focus power - an old Guild trick. The huge costs of > >>>> > 'expertise' focused in individuals rather than in an equal access > >>>> > system in which it is embodied is the same as unionised power. We now > >>>> > have computer buildings situated next to federal finance buildings in > >>>> > order to get information nano-seconds quicker so traders can front-run > >>>> > (illegal) on the inequity of information. There are such games > >>>> > Allan. When people play them in lab conditions knowing they are > >>>> > scrutinised they make the social, cooperative choices - fix a game > >>>> > where they think they aren't being scrutinised and they cheat. > > >>>> > On 15 Nov, 04:51, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> The business model is going to need be one for the betterment of > >>>> >> society > >>>> >> rather than just for the desires of self and wealth. It is okay to > >>>> >> have > >>>> >> wealth when it is used to improve and provide for people , yet you > >>>> >> can not > >>>> >> gain wealth at the expense of other especially the poor. > > >>>> >> Maybe a game can be devised that teaches social awareness rather than > >>>> >> self. > >>>> >> Allan > > >>>> >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light > >>>> >> On Nov 14, 2012 5:40 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> >> > Massive Open Online Courses (MOOC). I promoted the idea that most > >>>> >> > of > >>>> >> > what is done in classrooms after 13 should be replaced by online > >>>> >> > programmes in a project in the 1980s. The technology lagged the > >>>> >> > idea > >>>> >> > then - and the idea wasn't much more than that of students > >>>> >> > reading-up > >>>> >> > before lectures and doing hard problem solving in tutorials. We > >>>> >> > were > >>>> >> > developing interactive role-play videos at the time. It was very > >>>> >> > expensive and the technology not up to speed. A CD burner cost > >>>> >> > around > >>>> >> > $30K in today's money. > > >>>> >> > In fact, mainstream university education outside science went > >>>> >> > backwards to more and more formal teaching and death by Powerpoint - > >>>> >> > it was what lecturers were trained to do. The MOOC model is now > >>>> >> > getting stronger and Bill Gates is investing through bis trust. > > >>>> >> > One project I'd love to have a go at is to produce video games that > >>>> >> > teach basics from cell biology to business. Cell biology lends > >>>> >> > itself > >>>> >> > to science fiction. Whilst cells are tiny the scale of what goes on > >>>> >> > in them and their structures are 'Star Wars'. One could devise a > >>>> >> > game > >>>> >> > based in virus attack and the 'arms wars' of co-evolution. My > >>>> >> > business game would probably be based on Al Capone. You can write > >>>> >> > the > >>>> >> > things in hypertext with lots of links to knowledge. > >>>> >> > The games could probably be written to allow simulated research too > >>>> >> > - > >>>> >> > we have virtual reality labs to teach engineering. > > >>>> >> > We could probably write community project simulations too - about, > >>>> >> > say, setting up community-based food supply and property building. > > >>>> >> > The fundamental idea in this is the embodiment of expert knowledge - > >>>> >> > much as we have embodied man artisanal skills in machines. > > >>>> >> > The models of education we do have rely on academic forms of > >>>> >> > learning > >>>> >> > only few are much good at. In higher education e have seen the > >>>> >> > expansion of this to a massive debt cost. This from Zerohedge > >>>> >> > somewhere: > >>>> >> > Career Education, when it reported its quarterly financial results, > >>>> >> > shed more light on an industry that had ruthlessly taken advantage > >>>> >> > of > >>>> >> > quirks in the American way of funding higher education, and that, > >>>> >> > even > >>>> >> > more insidiously, had preyed on gullible prospective students who > >>>> >> > were > >>>> >> > desperately trying to better their lives. Then it handed the tab to > >>>> >> > the taxpayer who couldn’t say no. A perfect scam. And it contributed > >>>> >> > to a ruinous mountain of student loans [ Next: Bankruptcy for a > >>>> >> > whole > >>>> >> > Generation]. > > >>>> >> > In the halcyon days of 2010, Career Education had $2.09 billion in > >>>> >> > annual revenues. Then a free-fall. By September 30, quarterly > >>>> >> > revenues > >>>> >> > hit $333 million. Enrollment was down 23%, in the health education > >>>> >> > category 41%. An additional 900 people will be laid off, on top of > >>>> >> > the > >>>> >> > previously announced 1,300. The company will “gradually” close 23 of > >>>> >> > its 90 campuses. Red ink is gushing, with no end in sight. The stock > >>>> >> > has plunged from $70 in June 2004 to today’s 52-week intraday low of > >>>> >> > $2.60. > > >>>> >> > Career Education is in good company. The largest player in the > >>>> >> > industry, University of Phoenix, which is owned by Apollo Group, is > >>>> >> > also getting hammered by scandals and declining revenues. Enrolment > >>>> >> > has plummeted from over 400,000 students to 328,000. To halt the > >>>> >> > bleeding, it shuttered 115 locations in 30 states. > > >>>> >> > Corinthian Colleges got hit as well. One of its specialties was the > >>>> >> > Ability-to-Benefit program, under which students without high school > >>>> >> > diploma or GED had been receiving student loans and grants to attend > >>>> >> > classes though they had virtually no chance of graduating. As of > >>>> >> > July > >>>> >> > 1, 2012, the government shut off the spigot. > > >>>> >> > Now scrambling to get back on that gravy train, the school is > >>>> >> > offering > >>>> >> > free GED preparation programs to high-school dropouts, expecting for > >>>> >> > “some portion of successful GED completers to enroll” in its > >>>> >> > institutions. And it’s trying hard to sign up new students to pocket > >>>> >> > their financial aid: marketing and admission expenses were about 25% > >>>> >> > of revenues.... “Our mission is to change students’ lives,” the > >>>> >> > press > >>>> >> > release said. > > >>>> >> > Corinthian Colleges is selling some campuses and shuttering others, > >>>> >> > particularly in California where the crackdown has become more > >>>> >> > aggressive. For a reason: the out-of-money state is trying to reign > >>>> >> > in > >>>> >> > the cost of its Cal Grants, a financial aid system that ballooned > >>>> >> > from > >>>> >> > $915 million to $1.6 billion in eight years. > > >>>> >> > These schools are facing tighter regulations all around. On the > >>>> >> > federal level, the Department of Education, for instance, banned > >>>> >> > incentives paid to admissions reps or recruiters for the number of > >>>> >> > students they hoodwinked into enrolling. Pressures are rising to get > >>>> >> > these schools to prioritize student graduation and job placement, > >>>> >> > rather than just grabbing financial-aid money. But, as the financial > >>>> >> > results demonstrate, that push blew up their entire business model. > > >>>> >> > In its dazzling manner, the for-profit post-secondary education boom > >>>> >> > left behind a long trail of wrecked dreams, unfinished or worthless > >>>> >> > degrees, wasted time, and a huge pile of student loans resting on > >>>> >> > the > >>>> >> > shoulders of people who were unable to find jobs in the fields > >>>> >> > they’d > >>>> >> > studied and who are now unable to pay back these loans. In the > >>>> >> > process, these outfits sucked up taxpayer-funded state and federal > >>>> >> > financial aid of all types and made early investors and executives > >>>> >> > rich. At their peaks, the stocks were picked up by mutual funds and > >>>> >> > were thus sneakily stuffed into well-diversified portfolios and > >>>> >> > 401k’s, as recommended by all of Wall Street. Because somebody has > >>>> >> > got > >>>> >> > to buy this stuff on the way down. > > >>>> >> > The situation in the UK - where HE is technically > > ... > > read more »
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