OK, boys, let's stop the weeping and whining, our data are needed. I requested an invite here: http://www.ingress.com. Let's augment our sad reality!
2012/11/15 Allan H <[email protected]>: > that figure a game that teaches morality then using it to deceive people.. > Sad so sad. > Allan > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:28 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> It probably all comes down to the spread of the means of production >> Gabby. One of the great pieces of strategic management was the order >> to allow his troops to sit down by a Russian general - cutting >> casualties by 50%. This rather exposed the stupidity of the rules of >> engagement. I have tried a game with tax avoidance, criminal money >> and the standard value chain recently and my 'kids' soon got the hang >> of such 'business management'. No great skill with numbers was needed >> as I'd written some 'code' similar to financial algos that showed >> clear outcomes. Starbucks is using something similar. Ethics >> discussion arises in terms of having to do what the opposition might >> be getting away with. >> >> On 15 Nov, 17:41, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yes, I'm not quite sure yet what to think of the moocy business >>> either. The idea is good though, I find. >>> As for games in education or gamification of educational content, it >>> is a great help for autistic learners, yes. The rules and constraints >>> within the bubble are reliable and predictable and the excitement >>> level is guaranteed. Knowledge transfer happens in a state of flow and >>> everyone is happy in the end. Or so. I didn't follow up on Chris' >>> Aemoebe(?) game project based on crowd funding. - I would want the >>> real kids to be given all the resources and support they need to be >>> able to produce their own games. >>> >>> 2012/11/15 archytas <[email protected]>: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > We seem to be stuck in the ideological mud, including such stuff as >>> > education being any use to people who can't do it and allowing >>> > qualifications to focus power - an old Guild trick. The huge costs of >>> > 'expertise' focused in individuals rather than in an equal access >>> > system in which it is embodied is the same as unionised power. We now >>> > have computer buildings situated next to federal finance buildings in >>> > order to get information nano-seconds quicker so traders can front-run >>> > (illegal) on the inequity of information. There are such games >>> > Allan. When people play them in lab conditions knowing they are >>> > scrutinised they make the social, cooperative choices - fix a game >>> > where they think they aren't being scrutinised and they cheat. >>> >>> > On 15 Nov, 04:51, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> The business model is going to need be one for the betterment of society >>> >> rather than just for the desires of self and wealth. It is okay to have >>> >> wealth when it is used to improve and provide for people , yet you can >>> >> not >>> >> gain wealth at the expense of other especially the poor. >>> >>> >> Maybe a game can be devised that teaches social awareness rather than >>> >> self. >>> >> Allan >>> >>> >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light >>> >> On Nov 14, 2012 5:40 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> > Massive Open Online Courses (MOOC). I promoted the idea that most of >>> >> > what is done in classrooms after 13 should be replaced by online >>> >> > programmes in a project in the 1980s. The technology lagged the idea >>> >> > then - and the idea wasn't much more than that of students reading-up >>> >> > before lectures and doing hard problem solving in tutorials. We were >>> >> > developing interactive role-play videos at the time. It was very >>> >> > expensive and the technology not up to speed. A CD burner cost around >>> >> > $30K in today's money. >>> >>> >> > In fact, mainstream university education outside science went >>> >> > backwards to more and more formal teaching and death by Powerpoint - >>> >> > it was what lecturers were trained to do. The MOOC model is now >>> >> > getting stronger and Bill Gates is investing through bis trust. >>> >>> >> > One project I'd love to have a go at is to produce video games that >>> >> > teach basics from cell biology to business. Cell biology lends itself >>> >> > to science fiction. Whilst cells are tiny the scale of what goes on >>> >> > in them and their structures are 'Star Wars'. One could devise a game >>> >> > based in virus attack and the 'arms wars' of co-evolution. My >>> >> > business game would probably be based on Al Capone. You can write the >>> >> > things in hypertext with lots of links to knowledge. >>> >> > The games could probably be written to allow simulated research too - >>> >> > we have virtual reality labs to teach engineering. >>> >>> >> > We could probably write community project simulations too - about, >>> >> > say, setting up community-based food supply and property building. >>> >>> >> > The fundamental idea in this is the embodiment of expert knowledge - >>> >> > much as we have embodied man artisanal skills in machines. >>> >>> >> > The models of education we do have rely on academic forms of learning >>> >> > only few are much good at. In higher education e have seen the >>> >> > expansion of this to a massive debt cost. This from Zerohedge >>> >> > somewhere: >>> >> > Career Education, when it reported its quarterly financial results, >>> >> > shed more light on an industry that had ruthlessly taken advantage of >>> >> > quirks in the American way of funding higher education, and that, even >>> >> > more insidiously, had preyed on gullible prospective students who were >>> >> > desperately trying to better their lives. Then it handed the tab to >>> >> > the taxpayer who couldn’t say no. A perfect scam. And it contributed >>> >> > to a ruinous mountain of student loans [ Next: Bankruptcy for a whole >>> >> > Generation]. >>> >>> >> > In the halcyon days of 2010, Career Education had $2.09 billion in >>> >> > annual revenues. Then a free-fall. By September 30, quarterly revenues >>> >> > hit $333 million. Enrollment was down 23%, in the health education >>> >> > category 41%. An additional 900 people will be laid off, on top of the >>> >> > previously announced 1,300. The company will “gradually” close 23 of >>> >> > its 90 campuses. Red ink is gushing, with no end in sight. The stock >>> >> > has plunged from $70 in June 2004 to today’s 52-week intraday low of >>> >> > $2.60. >>> >>> >> > Career Education is in good company. The largest player in the >>> >> > industry, University of Phoenix, which is owned by Apollo Group, is >>> >> > also getting hammered by scandals and declining revenues. Enrolment >>> >> > has plummeted from over 400,000 students to 328,000. To halt the >>> >> > bleeding, it shuttered 115 locations in 30 states. >>> >>> >> > Corinthian Colleges got hit as well. One of its specialties was the >>> >> > Ability-to-Benefit program, under which students without high school >>> >> > diploma or GED had been receiving student loans and grants to attend >>> >> > classes though they had virtually no chance of graduating. As of July >>> >> > 1, 2012, the government shut off the spigot. >>> >>> >> > Now scrambling to get back on that gravy train, the school is offering >>> >> > free GED preparation programs to high-school dropouts, expecting for >>> >> > “some portion of successful GED completers to enroll” in its >>> >> > institutions. And it’s trying hard to sign up new students to pocket >>> >> > their financial aid: marketing and admission expenses were about 25% >>> >> > of revenues.... “Our mission is to change students’ lives,” the press >>> >> > release said. >>> >>> >> > Corinthian Colleges is selling some campuses and shuttering others, >>> >> > particularly in California where the crackdown has become more >>> >> > aggressive. For a reason: the out-of-money state is trying to reign in >>> >> > the cost of its Cal Grants, a financial aid system that ballooned from >>> >> > $915 million to $1.6 billion in eight years. >>> >>> >> > These schools are facing tighter regulations all around. On the >>> >> > federal level, the Department of Education, for instance, banned >>> >> > incentives paid to admissions reps or recruiters for the number of >>> >> > students they hoodwinked into enrolling. Pressures are rising to get >>> >> > these schools to prioritize student graduation and job placement, >>> >> > rather than just grabbing financial-aid money. But, as the financial >>> >> > results demonstrate, that push blew up their entire business model. >>> >>> >> > In its dazzling manner, the for-profit post-secondary education boom >>> >> > left behind a long trail of wrecked dreams, unfinished or worthless >>> >> > degrees, wasted time, and a huge pile of student loans resting on the >>> >> > shoulders of people who were unable to find jobs in the fields they’d >>> >> > studied and who are now unable to pay back these loans. In the >>> >> > process, these outfits sucked up taxpayer-funded state and federal >>> >> > financial aid of all types and made early investors and executives >>> >> > rich. At their peaks, the stocks were picked up by mutual funds and >>> >> > were thus sneakily stuffed into well-diversified portfolios and >>> >> > 401k’s, as recommended by all of Wall Street. Because somebody has got >>> >> > to buy this stuff on the way down. >>> >>> >> > The situation in the UK - where HE is technically public sector, is >>> >> > little different. I have moved out of undergraduate education to >>> >> > assessing work-based schemes. This is dreadful - but at least my pay >>> >> > doesn't rely on putting young people into £40K of debt. There are >>> >> > young people all over the world in this condition - notably the 'Ant >>> >> > People' of China - even their expanding economy doesn't provide decent >>> >> > jobs for graduates. >>> >>> >> > My own suspicion is education is not a good thing. I'm an >>> >> > educationalist so this doesn't make much sense. They key problem is >>> >> > trying to exploit it through already failing bubsiness models (I'll >>> >> > leave the typo as it sounds right) - and what scares me is that we are >>> >> > hoping for salvation through them. >>> >>> >> > -- >>> >>> > -- >> >> -- >> >> >> > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > > -- > > > --
