Wolfram Alpha - now there's an example of something not doing what it
said on the tin at the launch!  I shall go back.

They've found a wasp described as having a 'clock work brain'.  Seen
most of your finds James - which only shows our interests overlap.
Your take on Deutsch hadn't occurred to me and set my mind spinning.
I'm after a holy grail - something that would be a framework for
rational discussion.  Took a sleeping tablet last night because I
couldn't switch off - a problem my laptop is having since W8!  It now
boots as rapidly as my first PC from a 5 inch floppy.

Will get t your links and then walk dog (tail wag as I write this!) to
let news spin.



On 23 Nov, 04:48, James <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here's a neat reference to brain development in a tiny wasp which
> undergoes major neural expansion when it leaves the nest, dendrites to
> the tune of seven to eight mm long in a brain the size of two grains of
> sand.
>
> Tiny But Adaptable Wasp Brains Show Ability To Alter Their Architecture
>    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091014144738.htm
>
> An offshoot for a member here, my father in law mentioned working in
> audio biofeedback training \brain wave states with a woman 40 years ago
> with successful results using EEG equipment. The tech may be available
> in nano-sensor array headsets today (a gaming rig/platform).
>
> I'm out of steam tonight, reading about exocortex theories, the memex
> and ended up at this fascinating timeline at wolfram alpha!
>
> http://www.wolframalpha.com/docs/timeline/computable-knowledge-histor...
>
> Be well, happy turkey day, thanks gabby! :)
>
> ps. These are pretty neat too, apparently I became fascinated by wasp
> neurology a couple months ago.
>
> Alien Wasps Abduct, Drop Ants to Get 
> Food:http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/04/110406-aliens-wasps-a...
>
> Wasps Can Recognize Faces - Social species relies on recognition to keep
> the peace, study 
> suggests.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/11/111202-wasps-people-f...
>
> On 11/20/2012 3:49 PM, archytas wrote:
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> > I would certainly sign up for the brain-machine interface and a bit
> > of  splicing with a prawn to see in 16 colours (preferably with an
> > alien who sees the dark).  One possibility is that we don't know how
> > to use our brains much - capacity is massive potentially.  I rather
> > like the idea that biological intelligence is short-lived and other
> > civilisations have passed through it.  Stuff like Skydrive (which
> > sadly are attempts to rent software to us at high prices) could be
> > conceived as a thought-cloud in which individuality as we think of it
> > becomes as redundant as the PC once netware works.  We may see a
> > network in which all skills are embodied and means of production
> > available to all.  In some parts of science we are thinking the
> > machines are up to a lot we don't understand already.
> > More in my own field - we are finding brain changes associated with
> > social isolation.  In mice these changes leave the mice uninterested
> > in new mice (the opposite of normal).  The brain is much more plastic
> > than most imagine and humanity is changing.  On the familiarity thing
> > James, E = mc2 is actually as slightly larger equation including p
> > (momentum) and looks like the right-angled triangle introduced to us
> > in Pythagoras' theorem.  I take Deutsch as warning us against Bacon's
> > Idol of the Theatre.
>
> > On 20 Nov, 04:56, James<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> Whew Neil, I lack the time to grasp it well, though my instincts tell me
> >> to re-skim Pierce and modal logics to find out why it sounds so
> >> familiar. In my limited view S4 really bites us in the cognitive bias
> >> (meh, posterior) and Deutsche lays that out well on counterfactuals IMO.
> >> Hope I get more time soon to compare his robot with the 3,2,1
> >> configuration in Trikonic geometry (while fresh in memory).
>
> >> Again, it points me toward a much less dramatic revolution for our
> >> equation (depending on which emotions one prefers), transhumanism one
> >> way or another (good and or bad), a very exciting time in the
> >> anthropocene is it not? :p
>
> >> Hope all is well everyone!
> >> Best Regards
>
> >> On 11/16/2012 11:14 AM, archytas wrote:
>
> >>> arxiv.org/abs/1210.7439
> >>> Should produce David Deutsch's paper free.
>
> >>> This is a good example of science philosophy trying to shift thinking
> >>> boundaries.  There's some physics in it, but probably not enough to
> >>> put off a few readers in here.  David works on how science may be
> >>> restricted by our traditional myths of origin - and that we tend to
> >>> posit origins (Big Bang etc.) that may be as unhelpful as god concepts
> >>> to science (as opposed to spiritual discussion).
>
> >>> He also challenges ideas of mathematical a priori - such as Kant's
> >>> claim to know the geometry of the universe in such a manner.
>
> >>> The paper is speculative and I read it because I'm tinkering with
> >>> ideas of what economics might be if it was a science.  I'm not a
> >>> believer in scientific method beyond tropical fish realism.  What has
> >>> always struck me about economics is that it seems the prime reason for
> >>> not doing things because it renders our hopes impossible.  A truly
> >>> scientific theory seeks to show us what is possible and what won't
> >>> work.  We make the Higgs' boson (or at least get to see some of its
> >>> decay particles) from hydrogen in several kilometres of the LHC at
> >>> CERN and shouldn't forget the construction involved.
>
> >>> Classical constructors in science are catalysts.  Biology is full of
> >>> them.  David says the ultimate constructor may be knowledge and we
> >>> might be able to get to a sensible theory of human beings as such.
> >>> The 'unit' he is proposing is the task. I guess the problem he
> >>> wrestles with is the way we become technicians of dogma.
>
> >>> I'm fairly sure my own revulsion with economics is based on the Bible
> >>> story of kicking over the tables of the money-lenders.  David Graeber
> >>> has a book out suggesting religion was much more concerned with that
> >>> through history and rebellion against debt..
>
> >>> Origin in physics is not really Big Bang (or any of the alternatives)
> >>> and remains prone to the 'turtle argument' (the world is held up by a
> >>> turtle, so what holds up the turtle - another turtle, then another
> >>> turtle until, after that, its turtles all the way down).

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